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 Ahem. We have Blenheim Palace, a monument to the man who signally inflicted several crushing defeats on the armies of the bloke wot used to live in that cold, urine stinking white elephant Versailles. Also Castle Howard... We have Windsor Castle and Dover Castle, Leeds Castle in Kent, et cetera....Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostLet's be honest, a lot of tourists to the UK want to see where the royals live. Castles are fun, but Britain doesn't really have anything like Versailles and people go to the Louvre for the fancy paintings.
 
 The truth about Versailles is that its main purpose was to stop fractious ambitious French nobles plotting against the French Crown (see the two Frondes, the Day Of The Dupes, the Wars Of Religion, et cetera). It cost a vast amount to build, was bitterly cold in winter, lacked appropriate facilities for disposing of bodily wastes (nobles shat & pissed in corners) but still it gave a lot of envious smaller European powers something to look up to and waste money on building their versions....
 
 I recommend the excellent film 'Ridicule' to you (it also stars super sexy Fanny Ardant, who I think is tres gorgeous) for a look at how the system is meant to have worked.
 
 Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
 
 ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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 I know where you live..... eh, vaguely.Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View PostMaybe she could hire molly as an advisor? ... or, once a queen always a queen? Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau. Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
 
 ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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 Yes, I have seen a few castles in England (Windsor being one). None are as stunning as Versailles and its hall of mirrors to an average American traveler. And American tourists like the UK for the royals - they can see castles all over Europe otherwise.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
 - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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 New theory on why the Americans had a revolution - Not enough castles in the colonies. “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
 - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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 Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostYes, I have seen a few castles in England (Windsor being one). None are as stunning as Versailles
 Why compare castles with a palace?The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland
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 None however like Brighton Pavilion.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostYes, I have seen a few castles in England (Windsor being one). None are as stunning as Versailles and its hall of mirrors to an average American traveler. And American tourists like the UK for the royals - they can see castles all over Europe otherwise.
 
 
 
 American tourists also like the U.K. for :
 
 Jane Austen
 The Brontes
 William Shakespeare
 Charles Dickens
 Constable
 Turner
 The Beatles
 
 and as far as I know, none of them occupied the throne.
 
 They also like Cambridge, Oxford, Edinburgh, golf at St Andrews, et cetera. As for the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles- well, useful if you need to surrender to the Prussians I suppose.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
 
 ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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 I'd be willing to be they all sat on the throne at some point.Originally posted by molly bloom View Post
 Jane Austen
 The Brontes
 William Shakespeare
 Charles Dickens
 Constable
 Turner
 The Beatles
 
 and as far as I know, none of them occupied the throne."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
 "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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 Not only that, but shortly after the new democracy was formed the military became alarmed that the socialist parties were taking over. When army officers seized the government and invited him down to the Spanish equivalent of Parliament in order to declare him absolute ruler of Spain he walked into the room, ordered the soldiers to arrest their officers, and declared the coup over.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostFranco set him up as his successor under an absolute monarchy, and following Franco's death, he used his absolute power to turn Spain into a democratic constitutional monarchy.
 
 Sadly, AFAIK there was no video record of that moment."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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 i don't think it happened quite like that (you're referring to the 23-F coup, right?). as i recall, 200 civil guards invaded the parliament and took the members hostage. it was the minister of defence who stood up and ordered them to stop, as they were firing rounds into the ceiling! the king went on television later and denounced the coup, which meant its failure.
 
 there were some television cameras present, and there's about 30 minutes of footage from inside the spanish parliament. you can probably find it on youtube."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
 
 "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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