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  • #31
    Originally posted by self biased View Post
    what's funny to me is my straight, cisgendered friends doing this super obnoxious braying about happy they are over the decision. It's like some kind of perverse straight guilt, as if they were some kind of lorax that speaks for the queers.
    This, a thousand times. It's incredibly annoying.
    And I'm not even particularly upset at the ruling (though I think Roberts was probably correct), and I'm not upset at all with the policy outcome.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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    • #32
      It's obviously terrible when people are happy to see an example of blatant discrimination struck down, especially when it helps improve the lives of their families and friends too. Straight people everywhere should clearly be ashamed of themselves.

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      • #33
        Soo, about the woman who sued the federal government over the taxation of the property she inherited when her partner died. The Feds are going to refund her with interest. If she lived in a state that didn't recognise same sex marriages would she not be getting the refund? I'd see that as a problem.
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        • #34
          Why? And if she lived in a state without gay marriage, how could she even be married in the first place?
          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            Why? And if she lived in a state without gay marriage, how could she even be married in the first place?
            Read the rest of the thread and you'll find out.
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            • #36
              As in, why would it bother him. The whole point of this ruling is that the states get to decide whether to have gay marriage or not, and the feds just have to respect their individual decisions.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                Why? And if she lived in a state without gay marriage, how could she even be married in the first place?
                Err? She got married elsewhere
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                • #38
                  By the way, a fun, happy side effect of this is that liberals are no longer screaming bloody murder about yesterday's perfectly reasonable ruling on the VRA. Talk about short attention span.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by self biased View Post
                    what's funny to me is my white friends doing this super obnoxious braying about happy they are over the decision. It's like some kind of perverse white guilt, as if they were some kind of lorax that speaks for the negroes.
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                    • #40
                      To be fair, white guilt is almost as annoying as straight guilt.

                      Unless you're actually a former racist/homophobe, you shouldn't feel guilty. And no one should try to make you feel guilty.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • #41
                        yeah its not like there's this thing called empathy that people feel

                        that makes them unhappy when people are treated unfairly

                        its all guilt

                        ****ing morons
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                          If Neal and I get married in Iowa, and then we move to a backward state like Georgia, Neal and I will still get equal federal benefits of marriage even if Georgia does not legally recognize our marriage.
                          TY, that is ok with me.

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                          • #43
                            It's very hard for me to get worked up over this one way or another. Especially given the not-ultimately-conclusive nature of the ruling. We've reached a milestone in the fight to get a small percentage of the population access to the legal aspect of a dying institution. And, by "milestone," we mean "previous advances against the progressive position have been nullified and any future attacks taking the same general form pre-empted, effectively returning us to the way things were (legally) some time before."

                            Don't get me wrong, this is a net positive, but mostly I think the entire gay rights fight is merely a proxy war in a broader cultural struggle.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by self biased View Post
                              what's funny to me is my straight, cisgendered friends doing this super obnoxious braying about happy they are over the decision. It's like some kind of perverse straight guilt, as if they were some kind of lorax that speaks for the queers.
                              well some of my gay friends liked it
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                                Also, I appreciate the fact that the majority ruling has clearly referred to the Loving vs. Virginia case.

                                Those here on Apolyton who said that historical issues regarding interracial marriage cannot be compared to issues regarding same sex couples marrying can eat their words now.

                                FYI
                                If not for the ruling on interracial marriage, I would not be married now. I can sympathize with your struggle.

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