xbox "ONE"

[Sava]

500 gb hard drive...
non-removable
non-upgradable

another massive fail

[Sava]

It's big too. Reminds me of my IBM 286 back in the day



Seriously. That's bigger than my mini-itx build. And the specs in that machine are better than this already obsolete console.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Look like it will have a lot in common with HTC One from success perspective.

[Guynemer]

Damn and I thought the PS4 was horrible. Is Microsoft really trying to get people to buy surveillance equipment that is always on and spying on you? That's pretty damn creepy.

Never, ever, ever underestimate the stupidity of the American public. That ****er is gonna fly off the shelves.

[DinoDoc]

Never, ever, ever underestimate the stupidity of the American public. That ****er is gonna fly off the shelves.

That fails to stop it from being creepy as hell.

[H Tower]

No talk yet about killing the used game market? Supposedly, the new system will require a code that comes with the game that will be tied to your profile. I wonder what percentage of Gamestop's profit comes from reselling used game? That market will disappear practically overnight.

[Asher]

It's big too. Reminds me of my IBM 286 back in the day



Seriously. That's bigger than my mini-itx build. And the specs in that machine are better than this already obsolete console.

You have an 8-core processor with 8GB of RAM and a Radeon 7xxx in your mini ITX?

[Asher]

That fails to stop it from being creepy as hell.

I don't get why people are creeped out about this, to be honest.

Are you afraid the DSP in the console is going to judge you jerking off on the couch to a glimpse of a tit on Game of Thrones?

[self biased]

but when has any company actually given a **** about the secondary market? These crooks would charge people by The hour if they could get away with it.

Xpost

[Sava]

You have an 8-core processor with 8GB of RAM and a Radeon 7xxx in your mini ITX?

irrelevant... very few modern games utilize more than one or two cores... we can thank consoles for that

yes, i have more ram

the gfx in xbox is equivalent to a 7870... from what i've read

my mini has a 660ti

They are comparable cards. Though, my machine runs at 2560x1600... much better than the 1080p the "one" advertises... and more likely, it will just be 720p like the 360... possibly upscaled

so yeah, aside from the under or un-utilized 8 cores, my machine is superior in every way

and I have 3 tb of storage

and i can upgrade it... any time

and it doesn't spy on me

and it doesn't need to be always online

[H Tower]

but when has any company actually given a **** about the secondary market? These crooks would charge people by The hour if they could get away with it.

Xpost

I know companies don't care about the secondary market, I was just surprised that no one here had gone ape**** over it yet.

[Asher]

irrelevant... very few modern games utilize more than one or two cores... we can thank consoles for that

Uh, what?

Xbox 360 had 3 cores, PS3 has 8.

The reason very few games use more than two cores is because dual-core CPUs are the norm in the PC gaming space. Consoles have been multicore for longer.

yes, i have more ram

the gfx in xbox is equivalent to a 7870... from what i've read

my mini has a 660ti

They are comparable cards. Though, my machine runs at 2560x1600... much better than the 1080p the "one" advertises... and more likely, it will just be 720p like the 360... possibly upscaled

Sava, no offense, but you're full of **** here.

It'll be 1080p at least. Not 720p. The GPU itself is "comparable to a 7870" but that doesn't mean performance will be in games. Things you haven't taken into account:
1) EDRAM framebuffer
2) Being able to "write to the metal" means you can get significantly more power out of the hardware than you could on anything equivalent on the PC. The PS3 has the equivalent of a GeForce 7800 GTX circa 2005, the Xbox 360 used a cut-down version of the Radeon X1800 circa 2006. There is no way you'd get anywhere close to the framerate the PS3/360 get running the same fidelity/resolution graphics on a PC.
3) PCs deal with the relatively high-latency/low-bandwidth PCI-Express interconnect. The CPU/GPU are on the same die in the new consoles with extremely fast interconnects and shared memory access. This is a huge improvement.

[Asher]

Radeon 7870 = 2560 GFLOPS (1280 unified cores)

Xbox 360 GPU = 240 GFLOPS (40 unified cores)
PS3 GPU = 178 GFLOPS (24 pixel cores, 8 vertex cores)

And you think it'll run games at 720p?

Just for ****s and giggles:

Wii GPU = 11 GFLOPS (8 pixel cores, 0 vertex cores)
Wii U GPU = ~360 GFLOPS (320 unified cores)

[Jon Miller]

Asher, what do you think of the XBox specs relative to the PS4 specs?

What do you think about the OS/interactivity/market?

JM

[Jon Miller]

I am not looking now, but I might be in ~1 year.

JM