Benghazi Will Screw Obama, Which He Deserves

[Elok]

No, it's not racism, FFS. It's just our increasingly moronic and feudal-minded political theater. We'd treat President Hillary far worse, if only because of her historical baggage.

[kentonio]

No, it's not racism, FFS. It's just our increasingly moronic and feudal-minded political theater. We'd treat President Hillary far worse, if only because of her historical baggage.

Oh give me a break, I'm really tired of this attitude of 'foreigners just don't understand our American ways'. I've been following US politics for decades, and while the undercurrents of racism have always been there (in both parties let's be honest) they have literally exploded in the Republican party in recent years. 9/11 provided the opening for racists to start spewing their hate publicly again with Muslims providing an easy target, and the election of Obama gave them the platform to expand on that.

You can all sit there and deny it's happening and it'll just get worse and worse, or you can face up to it and actually deal with it. Go read what a lot of prominent black writers have to say about this supposedly non-existent racism that's pervading American society recently, and then come back and tell me we're just making it up.

[Hauldren Collider]

Kentonio, it really ****ing isn't racism. I promise you it's not racism. If he were a black republican they'd be all over him. By the way, if you want to see really serious racism, you should see how black republicans get treated by the media.

And yeah, kentonio, you really don't understand US politics.

[Elok]

Who said anything about foreigners in general? You're the only one going on about this ATM. Anyway, I freely admit I don't understand UK politics--largely because I don't bother to follow it--but even if I did, I wouldn't be silly enough to make sweeping conclusions about Labour being, say, secret communist infiltrators while people across the Brit political spectrum told me I was talking nonsense.

Also, a lot of "prominent black writers" earn their bread and butter by looking for things to be offended by and raising hell with them. Just like prominent gay writers, prominent Jewish writers, prominent Christian writers, prominent female writers...if you didn't know that's how we roll over here (I'd be astonished if it were different over there), you really don't know how we work at all.

[kentonio]

Kentonio, it really ****ing isn't racism. I promise you it's not racism.

Cool, I guess all those people who lived through the civil right movement and who are now openly raising their concerns can just relax and go back to bed. Thanks for clearing that up.

If he were a black republican they'd be all over him. By the way, if you want to see really serious racism, you should see how black republicans get treated by the media.

Jesus christ, I do see how black Republicans are treated by the damn media, and the idea that people like Herman Cain and Allan West are lambasted because of racism is damn stupid. They are attacked by the media because they are morons who regularly spout completely nonsensical babble. There's a reason why the likes of Condi Rice and Colin Powell get's treated with a huge amount more respect.

And yeah, kentonio, you really don't understand US politics.

That must be why I accurately predicted the outcome of the last election with the exception of a single state (which I had said I was being optimistic about). How did you do?

[Elok]

P.S. Ignorant hatred of Muslims has been pretty bipartisan, TBH. The direction of the hysteria-defensiveness vector depends on the political situation. That Dubai Ports nonsense was cheered on by Dems, for example, because it plainly annoyed the Republican administration.

[kentonio]

P.S. Ignorant hatred of Muslims has been pretty bipartisan, TBH. The direction of the hysteria-defensiveness vector depends on the political situation. That Dubai Ports nonsense was cheered on by Dems, for example, because it plainly annoyed the Republican administration.

Absolutely, as I said above racism certainly isn't confined to just the Republicans. The Southern Strategy ensured though that the Republicans have far more than their fair share.

[kentonio]

Who said anything about foreigners in general? You're the only one going on about this ATM. Anyway, I freely admit I don't understand UK politics--largely because I don't bother to follow it--but even if I did, I wouldn't be silly enough to make sweeping conclusions about Labour being, say, secret communist infiltrators while people across the Brit political spectrum told me I was talking nonsense.

Sure, let's go for the reductio ad absurdum. It's not like you just spent several centuries oppressing an entire race of people, who didn't even achieve full civil rights until barely half a century ago. It's also clearly not like you still have huge and transparent race problems throughout your major cities and a vast income and wealth disparity.

Also, a lot of "prominent black writers" earn their bread and butter by looking for things to be offended by and raising hell with them. Just like prominent gay writers, prominent Jewish writers, prominent Christian writers, prominent female writers...if you didn't know that's how we roll over here (I'd be astonished if it were different over there), you really don't know how we work at all.

Oh you did not just go there..

[kentonio]

DP

[Colon™]

Bush the younger got accused for orchestrating 911 and installing a fascist regime. I don't think the **** Obama is receiving is any worse. USicans need to turn down the hysteria all around.

[DaShi]

Obama is Bush's fault!

[kentonio]

Bush the younger got accused for orchestrating 911 and installing a fascist regime. I don't think the **** Obama is receiving is any worse. USicans need to turn down the hysteria all around.

It took Bush 2 major wars, a ****load of lying about WMDs, the introduction of abduction and torture policies, the near destruction of Americas international reputation, the devastation of the US economy and an appallingly bad response to modern Americas worst natural disaster to earn that hate. Obama earned it by being elected.

[DinoDoc]

They key difference between the two camps is that Democrats shout down the truthers for being retarded. Republicans encourage the birther movement.

Birther row began with Hillary Clinton

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, it's not racism, FFS. It's just our increasingly moronic and feudal-minded political theater. We'd treat President Hillary far worse, if only because of her historical baggage.

Sorry Elok, plenty of it is racism. That is the only explanation for the birthers, which make up a frightening portion of the GOP.

[Imran Siddiqui]

By the way, if you want to see really serious racism, you should see how black republicans get treated by the media.

Like Colin Powell?

And yeah, kentonio, you really don't understand US politics.

Not as much as you don't understand UK politics.