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  • yesterday a kid in ohio shot himself in class

    ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FREEDOM
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • Kid in Ohio had the right to do what he wanted with his own body, right?
      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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      • No. Not legally. Not morally.

        Murder is wrong... even murdering yourself.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • What gives you the right to control his body? How is suicide worse than abortion?
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • Wait a minute... doesn't suicide destroy a real person instead of a fetus?

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            • Define real person. Is Google a person?
              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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              • I don't understand how opposition to murder translates into "control over his body". Did BK hack your account?

                Abortion isn't murder. Even if a fetus was a person, which it's not, it still wouldn't be murder. Maybe you should look up the definition.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                  I don't understand how opposition to murder translates into "control over his body". Did BK hack your account?

                  Abortion isn't murder. Even if a fetus was a person, which it's not, it still wouldn't be murder. Maybe you should look up the definition.
                  Everything about this is completely wrong.

                  Suicide isn't murder. People who survive suicide attempts aren't charged with attempted murder. When a husband kills his wife and then himself it's called a "murder-suicide" not a "double murder."

                  Abortion, on the other hand, would be murder if the fetus were a person. What makes it legal is the non-personhood of the fetus.
                  John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                  • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                    yesterday a kid in ohio shot himself in class

                    ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FREEDOM
                    Why's the gun to blame for the actions of a showy douchebag going for a final "Look at me!" moment?
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                      Everything about this is completely wrong.

                      Suicide isn't murder. People who survive suicide attempts aren't charged with attempted murder. When a husband kills his wife and then himself it's called a "murder-suicide" not a "double murder."

                      Abortion, on the other hand, would be murder if the fetus were a person. What makes it legal is the non-personhood of the fetus.
                      You would be correct if the definition of murder isn't what it is.

                      So yeah. Your entire view depends on you believing in something that is wrong. All I can recommend is that you read the definition. Maybe that will help. But I'm doubtful. You seem to have an immunity to facts.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.


                        The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
                        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                        • You want to try again Sava?
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • Thanks for proving my point.

                            unlawful is the key word

                            Also, murder tends to involve malice intent.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • What?

                              How does that mean that murder and suicide are the same?
                              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                              • You can argue semantics all you want. I'm happy to oblige. You just end up looking like BK. And when this is what the "pro gun" side is reduced to... well... you've marginalized yourself so far out of the mainstream that nothing you say matters to the process.
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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