Oh, and why are pro-lifers virtually always pro death penalty...!?
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Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostFar fewer people get killed by guns then by automobiles.
Some hypothetical murders might take place, but that is the work of a few psychopaths, killings by guns simply are not happening at the scale that 'pro-life' advacoates would have you believe.
JMOriginally posted by Jon Miller View PostFar fewer people get killed by guns then by automobiles.
Some hypothetical murders might take place, but that is the work of a few psychopaths, killings by guns simply are not happening at the scale that 'pro-life' advacoates would have you believe.
JM
Also, I'd support banning the internal combustion engine.To us, it is the BEAST.
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Originally posted by Felch View PostWe're not all as comfortable with mothers killing their defenseless children as you are.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostNewborns that are delivered alive are usually described as babies by normal people, MtG. I realize that may drive home the morality of what the man has done for your side of the issue which is what makes it hard for you to say. I only asked you when they become persons after you decided to defend the rather ghoulish description of children without the good graces to die immediately as a fetus outside the womb.
You can call a non-viable fetus a "baby" if you want, but it's an emotionally laden, imprecise term. We're not talking live delivery in the context of the then-state senator Obama quote. We're talking a non-viable fetus temporarily surviving outside the womb after abortion. If that "baby" if you want to call it that, had been prematurely delivered, and not aborted, there would be no difference in the survival chances. They are zero in either case. Trying to link Obama's quote, taken out of context, to any discussion of this case is just trolling.
After-birth abortion: why should the baby live? published by the Journal of Medical Ethics of all places.
The journal seeks to promote ethical reflection and conduct in scientific research and medical practice. It features original, full length articles on ethical aspects of health care, as well as brief reports, responses, editorials, and other relevant material.
It got your attention, so there's your ethical reflection, and the paper you cite refers to its own position as an "argument" so it is clearly in the editorial category, not a report or scientific study. You think their position is repugnant and you disagree with it? So do I, and a lot of other pro-choice people too. It's also completely irrelevant to pre-viability abortion.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by Sava View PostI do.
Abortion is a medical procedure. I trust a medical professional's morals and ethics more than I do a politician's. Politicians shouldn't be in between a person and their doctor.
Government ought to promote policies that lead to reductions in the need for abortions
This particular doctor, as others have pointed out, is a psychopath. If these incidents are only going to occur as the result of some psychopathic person being in such a position... that to me is a victory. It's certainly no excuse to restrict rights for hypothetical late term abortions that simply are not happening on the scale that "pro-life" advocates would have you believe.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Speaking of trolling - one thing I've really never understood, philisophically, how can the same person that doesn't trust THE GOVERNMENT to even know if they own a gun, trusts THE GOVERNMENT to carry out death sentences.There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat View Post
It got your attention, so there's your ethical reflection, and the paper you cite refers to its own position as an "argument" so it is clearly in the editorial category, not a report or scientific study. You think their position is repugnant and you disagree with it? So do I, and a lot of other pro-choice people too. It's also completely irrelevant to pre-viability abortion.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View PostSpeaking of trolling - one thing I've really never understood, philisophically, how can the same person that doesn't trust THE GOVERNMENT to even know if they own a gun, trusts THE GOVERNMENT to carry out death sentences.
The main reason we don't have em in Australia anymore.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View PostSpeaking of trolling - one thing I've really never understood, philisophically, how can the same person that doesn't trust THE GOVERNMENT to even know if they own a gun, trusts THE GOVERNMENT to carry out death sentences.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Is Kermit truly the exception to the rule?
Seriously, I thought I was just trolling at the start of this thread. I didn't expect PP to High 5 me for making it.Last edited by DinoDoc; March 29, 2013, 19:05.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Full Context. Out of sympathy, the relevant portion starts around the 30 minute mark.Last edited by DinoDoc; March 29, 2013, 19:50.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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