Politically Correctness Victim 35298908129

[Hauldren Collider]

Yeah I get it you have no empathy for a girl getting sexually harassed in public.

The guy's a prick and should lose his job, I'm just not completely incensed and full of moral outrage by the thought of someone saying something like that to a 17 year old, as if that sort of thing doesn't happen every day in high school. This barely rates a "meh".

[MichaeltheGreat]

Yeah I get it you have no empathy for a girl getting sexually harassed in public.

Beyond that, isn't it a great lesson to teach kids about speaking up and getting involved in government?

[MichaeltheGreat]

The guy's a prick and should lose his job, I'm just not completely incensed and full of moral outrage by the thought of someone saying something like that to a 17 year old, as if that sort of thing doesn't happen every day in high school.

And if the guy was in high school, nobody would care. Unless he was a teacher or principle. The guy is 50 something years old, with kids older than her.

[MrFun]

We should doublethink his comment and then see there was no crimethink involved. Then the situation would be doubleplus good.

We get it. You're okay with sexual harassment of women. If you had a seventeen year old daughter and a fifty-something year old man said the same thing to her, you would be a-okay with that.

[MrFun]

The guy's a prick and should lose his job, I'm just not completely incensed and full of moral outrage by the thought of someone saying something like that to a 17 year old, as if that sort of thing doesn't happen every day in high school. This barely rates a "meh".

There's a difference between two teenage students willingly engaging in lewd exchanges with one another, and someone much older, in a position of power/authority, unilaterally spewing out a lewd, degrading comment toward a teenager.

[Uncle Sparky]

I could see it being an okay thing to say if he was literally keeping a pet snake under his desk.

^ This.

[MrFun]

Has it come to this that intention means nothing?

So I take it that if you had a seventeen year old daughter, that you would apply the same "intention" principle to a fifty-something year old guy who says the same thing to your daughter?

Give the ol' guy a pat on back and say, "That's alright, man. It's not what you said to my daughter, but what your intention was."

[Sava]

I always love when people get upset about "political correctness". There's no ****ing reality where sexually harassing a 17 year old girl, let alone anybody, would be considered actually correct...

And as an *******, I want to raise an objection because "anti-PC" arguments are generally the worst possible defenses for being an *******.

Also, I don't understand it from an ideological point of view... as far as conservatism is concerned. Conservatives tend to be the biggest anti-PC people around... yet they tend to (or pretend to) favor accountability in government. This ******** made a completely unprofessional comment. Any employee at any job would probably get fired if they said that to a customer or client. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated in business. It's not tolerated in public. Sure, you can talk that way at home or with your friends. But an elected official?

Come the **** on. How ****ing retarded are you people?

[Uncle Sparky]

"Of course you can pet the nice man's trouser snake."

[Imran Siddiqui]

The guy's a prick and should lose his job, I'm just not completely incensed and full of moral outrage by the thought of someone saying something like that to a 17 year old, as if that sort of thing doesn't happen every day in high school. This barely rates a "meh".

WTF?!! A person of the same age as her with no power saying it to her is quite different than a Deputy Speaker who is 30 years older than her.

[snoopy369]

The guy's a prick and should lose his job, I'm just not completely incensed and full of moral outrage by the thought of someone saying something like that to a 17 year old, as if that sort of thing doesn't happen every day in high school. This barely rates a "meh".

One of the many points here is that it _should not happen in high school either_; and that the fact that an adult in a position of power doing it empowers and encourages the high school kids to do it as well.

[Hauldren Collider]

And if the guy was in high school, nobody would care. Unless he was a teacher or principle. The guy is 50 something years old, with kids older than her.

Alright, fair enough. I agree, he's way out of line. But on the badness scale, this is pretty mild. If she were my daughter, I'd react the same as you would, by the way.

One of the many points here is that it _should not happen in high school either_;

Lots of things shouldn't happen in high school, but honestly, what the **** are you gonna do about it? Try to get 17 year old boys to not be 17 year old boys? Let it be a life lesson in having thick skin.

[Sava]

Lots of things shouldn't happen in high school, but honestly, what the **** are you gonna do about it?

Punish them until they learn to grow the **** up.

Let it be a life lesson in having thick skin.

It seems the so called 17 year old boys are the ones in need of a serious life lesson... and a foot up their ass...

[MichaeltheGreat]

I always love when people get upset about "political correctness". There's no ****ing reality where sexually harassing a 17 year old girl, let alone anybody, would be considered actually correct...

And as an *******, I want to raise an objection because "anti-PC" arguments are generally the worst possible defenses for being an *******.

Also, I don't understand it from an ideological point of view... as far as conservatism is concerned. Conservatives tend to be the biggest anti-PC people around... yet they tend to (or pretend to) favor accountability in government. This ******** made a completely unprofessional comment. Any employee at any job would probably get fired if they said that to a customer or client. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated in business. It's not tolerated in public. Sure, you can talk that way at home or with your friends. But an elected official?

Come the **** on. How ****ing retarded are you people?

As a USG employee, we had anti-harassment and conduct policies that would prohibit that sort of remark to members of the public, representatives of contractors (I worked in a contracts office), etc. Even with civil service protections, at the least you'd have a heapin' helpin' of **** piled on you, and for flagrant cases, you'd be out of a job.

This is one of those cases where if he didn't see the light and resign, someone should organize a recall election. Don't know if CT state reps can expel a member, but this is good enough for that in my book, as a violation of public trust and discrediting the legislature.

[snoopy369]

I'm sorry, saying "Well, sexual harassment occurs at schools, but what can you do about it?" is pretty much on the same line of "Well, Hitler's killing the Jews, but what can you do about it?" to me. And not just to hit the Godwin; it comes from the same place, IMO - the place where most people in the 1930s didn't really like Jews much, and it's not them that it's happening to, so they didn't mind so much that it was happening. Too many men empathize with the harassers, even if they wouldn't harass themselves, and aren't victims of harassment, so they don't see it as a problem.

Men _need_ to act to stop sexual harassment, and not just in the workplace - in school is the first place it should be addressed. Teach teenage boys that it's not okay to sexually harass the girls, and you teach them not to do it when they're older, either.