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  • Politically Correctness Victim 35298908129

    Competing for the "Excuse while I whip this on out" Award

    The Day - New London and southeastern Connecticut News, Sports, Business, Entertainment and Video



    Most members of the southeastern Connecticut delegation agree with the House speaker’s decision to strip state Rep. Ernest Hewett of his deputy speaker title, but state Rep. Edward Moukawsher came to Hewett’s defense on Friday. During a Feb. 20 Appropriations Committee hearing, a female 17-year-old ambassador for the Connecticut Science Center asked the committee to continue funding the center’s ambassador program. During her speech, she said the program helped her overcome her shyness and get over her fear of snakes. According to an audiotape of the hearing, Hewett said: “If you’re bashful I got a snake sitting under my desk here.” Moukawsher, D-Groton, said he has worked with Hewett, a New London Democrat, for 10 years and that he has always been very encouraging to young people.

    “The last thing he meant to do was in any way make a comment that was lewd,” Moukawsher said. “I am disappointed that those who know him and serve with him have not stood up for him.” On Thursday Hewett apologized. On Friday, the chairman of the Connecticut Republican party asked Hewett to resign. Hewett has not addressed the issue Friday. State Reps. Tim Bowles, D-Preston, Ed Jutila, D-East Lyme, Diana Urban, D-North Stonington, and Betsy Ritter, D-Waterford, said they agreed with the decision of House Speaker Brendan Sharkey, D-Hamden. “I still think that the speaker handled the situation appropriately,” Jutila said. “I think he is paying a big price by losing his assignment as deputy speaker. He is embarrassed obviously, he is clearly remorseful and he has apologized to everyone.”

    Urban said addressing sexual harassment at the state Capitol was long overdue and that there is a deeper problem. “There are incidents of this, not as obvious and as public as this one was,” she said. “And I think we need to re-evaluate the way we treat each other in the General Assembly.” Moukawsher said the decision to strip Hewett of his title happened too quickly. Moukawsher said he didn’t know what pressures the speaker was under but that he didn’t support Sharkey’s decision.

    “We are a caucus, we know each other,” he said. … “I am sure the speaker didn’t want the perception of what people heard, of what Ernie said, to reflect badly in his caucus. And I think we need to stick up for each other when he didn’t do anything wrong.” Moukawsher said that Hewett was responding to what the girl had said. She said that she had been a shy person and that she had overcome a fear of snakes.

    “What he was saying was, well your shyness was just as much a reality of me having a live snake under his desk,” Moukawsher said. He only mentioned it because she had testified about the snakes. “There was nothing to it,” Moukawsher said. After hearing Hewett’s remark, Darrell West, vice president of governance studies at the Brookings Institute in Washington, D.C., said how it’s important to consider how others interpret the comments.

    Any reasonable person would interpret what he said as offensive. It doesn’t matter what he intended, it’s what he said and how others interpreted it,” he said. He said it was a pretty “clear-cut situation” and that because it was caught on audio it makes it even more definitive.

    “It’s a serious situation because it is such a rude comment and to make a comment, to make a statement, like that in an open public meeting makes it even worse,” West said. “It’s not like it was a private conversation.” West said he thought stripping Hewett of his deputy speaker title was appropriate. He said it was good that Hewett apologized and that if he were to go back on that apology he would lose whatever “brownie points” he had accumulated. “People in this situation have to demonstrate through their actions that they really got the message and are working to do better in the future,” he said. “So it depends on how he reacts as well as how other people react to him.”

    Connecticut Republican party chairman Jerry Labriola Jr. said today that Hewett should resign.

    "I urge Rep. Hewett to save the legislature some valuable time and make the decision to step down himself," Labriola said in a press release. This incident and the level of punishment damages the reputation and credibility of the Democratic legislative leadership, he said.

    "Representative Hewett's offensive remark was a disgrace and an embarrassment," Labriola said. "The fact that it was made to a 17-year-old intern visiting the state Capitol to attend a public hearing sends an absolutely atrocious message." He said House Speaker Brendan Sharkey, D-Hamden only gave Hewett a "slap on the wrist." "The legislature has at its disposal a number of ways to sanction representative Hewett, ranging from an official censure to calling on him to resign," he said.
    Has it come to this that intention means nothing?
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    Pics of the girl nessecary to decide wether the comment was appropriate or not
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    • #3
      He should be fired for being a complete ****ing idiot. Saying that to a 17 year old he's ****ing idiot squared.

      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #4
        I'm quite happy to accept that saying "If you’re bashful I got a snake sitting under my desk here.” was innocent, if it came from an slack-jawed simpleton. Not sure that's a great defence from someone representing the public, however.
        The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
          He should be fired for being a complete ****ing idiot. Saying that to a 17 year old he's ****ing idiot squared.

          ACK!
          What Tuber said. Hewett was speaking without thinking. Otherwise, I'm sure he would have known how that comment could have been understood differently by someone else.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
            I'm quite happy to accept that saying "If you’re bashful I got a snake sitting under my desk here.” was innocent, if it came from an slack-jawed simpleton. Not sure that's a great defence from someone representing the public, however.
            Quit trying to make his case. Slack-jawed simpleton and representative are kinda synonymous.

            ACK!
            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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            • #7
              We should doublethink his comment and then see there was no crimethink involved. Then the situation would be doubleplus good.
              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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              • #8
                I could see it being an okay thing to say if he was literally keeping a pet snake under his desk.

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                • #9
                  I'm so outraged that someone made a vaguely sexual comment. Outraged. Makes me so mad. Argh I'm furious.
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                  ){ :|:& };:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
                    Competing for the "Excuse while I whip this on out" Award

                    The Day - New London and southeastern Connecticut News, Sports, Business, Entertainment and Video


                    Has it come to this that intention means nothing?
                    If he'd said that to my daughter when she was 17, in a public setting like that, he'd be eating his snake for dinner after it was cut off. Seriously? "I have a snake under my desk..." to a 17 year old girl speaking up in a legislative committee meeting? What credible intent is there that isn't worse than publicly humiliating her?

                    There's intent, then there's after the fact spinning of intent. If I'm pissed off at my neighbors and I go out and crank a hundred rounds into their house while they're home, I can say I didn't "intend" to hurt any of them. Excuses aside, the law doesn't care.
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                    • #11
                      ****, is it illegal to be lewd to teenagers now?
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                      ){ :|:& };:

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
                        He should be fired for being a complete ****ing idiot. Saying that to a 17 year old he's ****ing idiot squared.

                        ACK!
                        This.

                        Also I don't get the incredulity of this:
                        It doesn’t matter what he intended, it’s what he said and how others interpreted it
                        Um, isn't this how most conversations work in general? People usually don't care if you meant something else when everyone else interpreted it another way - they end up saying that the person should think before speaking next time.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          It can certainly get you fired. Or kicked in the bollocks by an irate father.
                          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            I'm so outraged that someone made a vaguely sexual comment. Outraged. Makes me so mad. Argh I'm furious.
                            Yeah I get it you have no empathy for a girl getting sexually harassed in public.

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                            • #15
                              It's clearly a violation of sexual harassment rules that typically apply to government employees - unless the state legislature in CT exempted itself.
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