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  • #31
    x-tiled.

    Agreed, both posts.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat View Post
      Excess weight. All you need to do is open an airlock.
      That's under "something similar".
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MOBIUS

        Failing that, they could have been issued with suicide pills if they didn't fancy a fiery death...
        They didn't burn to death - they were already dead by that point. It was pretty ugly, but pretty quick. On the flight deck, they were trying to recover flight control right up until the end - by the time they realized that wasn't going to happen (most likely at loss of power), it went dark and was over for them before they would have had the opportunity. Things on the mid deck were worse, no doubt, but they most likely never would have had a chance to get to suicide pills or much of anything else once the situation went from apparently routine to FUBAR.
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        • #34
          It wasn't possible for them to just stay on the station until relief?

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          • #35
            Nope, air supply would have run out long before. It would have taken weeks to get another shuttle up, and they didn't have sufficient fuel for the onboard engines to shift orbits to approach ISS. Soyuz craft, even if available, could only have taken off two at a time, and there was no means to direct dock a Soyuz to Columbia.
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            • #36
              After much thought, I would want to know, but not want my family to know. I would have liked the opportunity to prepare some audio/video message to them.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #37
                NASA's culpability wasn't mainly with telling the astronauts of their fate. Rather, it was with creating an inherently dangerous spacecraft in the first place.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #38
                  As opposed to what kind?
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #39
                    One that was fault-tolerant.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #40
                      Dude, there isn't a lot of margin for error on any spacecraft. Should we abandon space exploration until we have something perfectly safe? They knew what they signed up for. They understood the risks. They knew that on every flight, there is a decent likelihood they wouldn't be coming back. We never get anywhere without risk.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • #41
                        That's a bogus argument. The Russians have managed to create a system that is two orders of magnitude or so safer with 1950s technology that was an order of magnitude or more cheaper.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #42
                          Did you hear about the X Games snow mobile driver that just died? He had a lot less protection and a lot less reason to be doing it. He's just as dead.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #43
                            I was actually watching the X Games the other night. I didn't see that accident, but I saw where the snowmobile ran into the crowd after the driver fell off.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #44
                              Hi Dan

                              I must have blanked this accident out - too horrible. That footage is harrowing. One point ground control says on a routine matter "no problem, you have plenty of time..."
                              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
                                Hi Dan

                                I must have blanked this accident out - too horrible. That footage is harrowing. One point ground control says on a routine matter "no problem, you have plenty of time..."
                                The footage doesn't even show the bad part. They pitched and started going end over end. The mid-deck payload specialists were likely killed or at least knocked unconscious by flying objects. You can see in the video that thay're not fully suited up - which wouldn't have helped in any event, but that probably hastened the end.
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