llinois becomes the fourth and most populous U.S. state to issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

[SlowwHand]

Despite lingering concerns over identity fraud, public officials hail the new legislation as an important step for undocumented workers.

How ****ing retarded.

http://news.yahoo.com/fraud-concerns-linger-over-ill-license-law-155828827.html

[regexcellent]

Oh no! Law abiding people whose only "crime" is working hard and seeking a better life are given increased economic opportunities! The horror!

[SlowwHand]

Clearly, you don't grasp it. Illegal immigrants, are illegal.

[regexcellent]

Why are they illegal? Why should they be illegal? Why do we not just allow anyone in who has no criminal record and wants to move here?

[Tupac Shakur]

Sloww isn't really bothered by the illegality of their immigration. He's really just upset that are ethnic minorities in the United States and that they are being treated like human beings.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Illinois

[Dinner]

Clearly, you don't grasp it. Illegal immigrants, are illegal.

First of all it is a misdemeanor and this is a pretty complicated matter as they'll just end up driving without a license. So no driver's training, no insurance checks, or any of that. Personally, I'm still for it as a matter of public safety on the roads. A much better approach would be to fine the living **** out any company which employs illegals. Republicans would never let that happen though so you have big meat packing companies who get caught every 6 months having nothing but illegals working in their factories. Why every 6 months? Why because Republicans made it illegal for DHS to check on any place more often than once every six months even if they're a repeat offender who has never bothered to change their hiring practices. Hell, these companies are massive names you'd find in any supermarket yet they TO THIS DAY run ads down in Mexico saying they'll hire anyone who shows up at their doors.

The solution is to make the fines so HUGE these companies go bust and shareholders get wiped out while the execs and members of the board go to prison. Do that and everyone other employer will say "Damn, they're finally serious. Fire all those illegals we're employing" but until then the $120 fine is about 1 day's worth of savings compared to hiring an actual American so that means they net make money deliberately hiring illegals and ignoring the law. Republicans, ever in bed with big business, won't allow that to ever happen though.

[Dinner]

Why are they illegal? Why should they be illegal? Why do we not just allow anyone in who has no criminal record and wants to move here?

Free movement of labor results in more competitive economies.

[SlowwHand]

I totally agree that the companies hiring illegal immigrants need to be stepped on. None of you are illegal, so it's pretty stupid to advocate illegals on that basis alone, and that's nothing compared to all else.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And of course, the Christian thing to do is to allow migrants into the country:

33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

- Leviticus 19:33-34

[SlowwHand]

I'm not going down this road again. I understand your position from 12 years ago. You understand mine.

[Tupac Shakur]

Yes, we do understand that you're a loathsome racist.

[SlowwHand]

After a little thought, this might be good. If they're going to be sneaking over anyway, I would assume that they'll keep going all the way to Illinois.
Good job.

[Hauldren Collider]

Yes, we do understand that you're a loathsome racist.

Q. F. M. F. T.

I love illegal immigrants. They perform valuable services for me at low cost. Those I have interacted with have highly valued hard work, family, and honesty, all things which I also value very highly. Their only crime is to seek a new life in the land of opportunity.

I greatly admire them. They start with nothing, they endure serious hardship such as racism from *******s like Sloww, a legal system that seeks to eject them from their jobs and their homes, and they do their utmost to work their way up within the system. They are the people today who are truly living the American dream, yet many here seek to prevent them from doing that. It's funny and sad how illegal immigrants could have a better appreciation for some of our founding principles than many natural-born Americans.

[regexcellent]

I totally agree that the companies hiring illegal immigrants need to be stepped on. None of you are illegal, so it's pretty stupid to advocate illegals on that basis alone, and that's nothing compared to all else.

Answer my question. Why are illegal immigrants illegal? Why should they be illegal? Why do they remain illegal? Why do we not just make it legal? Then they would not be illegal and your objection would not stand.