Iowa declares affirmative action for ugly people

[Sava]

It's not your right to be employed.

hahahahaah oh the irony....
from the dip****s that brought you "right to work"

[Sava]

No, it's that the number of people in that predicament is extremely small compared with the number of people who really don't have brains, drive or ambition and expect to just coast along. Since the subject is raised in a thread pertaining to termination of a skilled employee for a stupid, but legal, reason, one would presume your intended "cure" is to put a broad mandate on all employers unilaterally constraining them in termination decisions, on the off chance that somehow an employee is both magically entitled to a job from that employer, and then magically entitled to continuing employment regardless of the employer's needs, so long as the employee doesn't blatantly violate some law or other "allowable" termination for cause.

Instead of helping people you seek to help, you'd end up with massively reduced hiring, loophole employment through temp agencies, outsourcing, etc. all with increased unemployment as businesses won't take the risk of being saddled for years with unproductive employees.

California is as pro-labor liberal as any state in the union, with tons of state level protective leaves, etc., and it is an at-will state, because the legislature recognizes that ending at will and imposing burdens only on employers will gut the state's economy.

And from someone who tries to be a "i luv freedom" guy...

I LOVE FREEDOM
but you people need to be work hard every day until you die

AHAHAH

[MichaeltheGreat]

No, the problem with your worldview (and the famed American one in general) is that it is based soley around a push to the top. The expectation is that people must always push to be the very best, and that those left at the bottom must be there through their own failure (and thus deserve what they get). The truth is that a majority of people are not hugely driven and do not want to work 3 jobs and move states to 'better themselves'. Most people want little more than to work a stable job, raise a family and provide for them without the fear of bankruptcy/lack of healthcare etc. Most first world countries recognized this in the second half of the last century and started trying to prevent people slipping too far behind, instead of just rewarding those who make it to the top. It results in much happier countries.

Where did I say you had to push to the top? All you have to do is not be determined to hang around the bottom your entire working life. There are all sorts of skilled and semi-skilled jobs and trades that pay decently enough, and if technology and work force demands change, then it's sort of useful to yourself to evolve and adapt.

[Jon Miller]

I know many people who are focused on not being at the bottom (who even are focused on getting to the top), who end up struggling with bankruptcy and lack of healthcare.

JM

[Jon Miller]

I know many people who are focused on not being at the bottom (who even are focused on getting to the top), who end up struggling with bankruptcy and lack of healthcare.

JM

[Asher]

Even two weeks notice can be tough depending on the person who is quitting. Asher loves to talk about how ****ed his former employers were when he handed in his notice and how they begged for him to come back. People are hard and expensive to replace unless they are in entry-level jobs.

It's not so much that they begged for me to come back, it's that they paid an outrageous rate for me as a contractor for a few months after for odds and ends. That's even better.

There was no coming back - I moved across the country. And I had already given them four months notice.