Nietzsche

[regexcellent]

I was amused by your terrible guess so I don't feel like telling you the correct answer. Maybe someday you'll figure out how timezones work.

Ah, there's a local time thing. Urbana, Illinois.

[Uncle Sparky]

How is it pronounced? How did German philosophers go from having easy names like 'Kant' to this monstrosity?

Rhymes with peachy.

[onodera]

Wrong.
Right.

Wrong. It's KNEE-tsshey

[dannubis]

No he is correct.

It is knee-chuh.

[Uncle Sparky]

Kant pronounced correctly, rhymes with punt.

[Kidlicious]

That's a terrible analysis. Rand is an Objectivist. She believes in what she does because she believes that it is true, and that truth can be apprehended and understood. Neitzsche on the other hand believes just the opposite. He believes there's no such thing as objective truth and that amoral brutality is the consequence of this presupposition.

Good distinction. I think Nietzche would say that the herd follows what it believes (what it is told) is truth (objective). The individual knows what is true in his heart.

[Kidlicious]

One of the things he's really good at is showing that a lot of morality was based on a Judeo-Christian basis and thus any system which wanted to purge the religious basis would have to come up with an entirely no moral order with a new basis because you can't just take out the Christianity out of a moral system based on Christian morality - it would stop making sense.

What he was saying is that the masses can't just make up some moral system, or that the moral system that they came up with wouldn't be worth a hill of beans, because the masses are immoral.

[Kidlicious]

Btw, Neitzche didn't say that there were no true christians, or that one couldn't be one. His criticism was of the masses of christians and the churches.

[Kidlicious]

Quite the contrary - he's well deserving of his reputation and standing as one of the most prominent philosophers ever. He's pretty much spot on.

Will to power?

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's a terrible analysis. Rand is an Objectivist. She believes in what she does because she believes that it is true, and that truth can be apprehended and understood. Neitzsche on the other hand believes just the opposite. He believes there's no such thing as objective truth and that amoral brutality is the consequence of this presupposition.

True. Their ideal societies would be vastly different. On a superficial level you can say they are both "amoral brutality", but it'd be like saying there is only a cosmetic difference between, say, liberal Protestantism and the Taliban.

[Tuberski]

Not only are you all saying it wrong, you're spelling it wrong!



Nitschke

Nitch- key

ACK!

[molly bloom]

Do any of y'all know what he was talking about?

I don't. From what I can make out, he sounds like Ayn Rand, only less coherent and more poetic. Right-brain Rand.

Some of his work was edited after his death by his antisemitic sister, if I remember correctly. Thus leading to the unfounded connections between Nietzsche's thought and the later 'philosophy' behind Nazism.

As I'm thinking Nietzsche thoughts, I suddenly recalled the taciturn son in 'Little Miss Sunshine' had quite a good rendition of Nietzsche painted on a sheet, hanging on his bedroom wall.

And a t-shirt saying 'Jesus Was Wrong' in Gothic script, which Freddy N. might have found wryly amusing.

[molly bloom]

Kant pronounced correctly, rhymes with punt.

No it dunt. But when posh English types say 'can't' sometimes it does- according to Ruby Wax:

[Elok]

True. Their ideal societies would be vastly different. On a superficial level you can say they are both "amoral brutality", but it'd be like saying there is only a cosmetic difference between, say, liberal Protestantism and the Taliban.

I wasn't aware that Nietzsche believed there was an "ideal society." Indeed, I imagine the simple mention of the phrase would send him into a frenzy of poetic excoriation. I don't mean to say that the two are identical; their messages are tailored for different audiences, and they get there from different directions. But certainly Nietzsche was a strong influence on the young Rand, before she ditched him for being insufficiently "rational."

Some of his work was edited after his death by his antisemitic sister, if I remember correctly. Thus leading to the unfounded connections between Nietzsche's thought and the later 'philosophy' behind Nazism.

As I'm thinking Nietzsche thoughts, I suddenly recalled the taciturn son in 'Little Miss Sunshine' had quite a good rendition of Nietzsche painted on a sheet, hanging on his bedroom wall.

And a t-shirt saying 'Jesus Was Wrong' in Gothic script, which Freddy N. might have found wryly amusing.

Oh, I know he wasn't a Nazi. I've read a small but representative amount of his unedited writings for school--genealogy of morals, prologue to Zarathustra, etc. I have a copy of Kaufmann's Portable Nietzsche in the library upstairs, which I make an effort to read from time to time. A very gifted writer, for all that trying to understand him is like swimming through mud.

And Little Miss Sunshine was awesome.

[Barnabas]

Wrong. It's KNEE-tsshey

I kinda agree, but I think it is more kneets-shey

or if anyone understands spanish and can read it phonetically, nits she