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That's including temporary homelessness, people who are just between homes. If you take out people who have only been homeless for a month or so, the number would be far lower. Most will find homes again in a relatively short period of time. The structural homelessness is the relevant number.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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He's nothing like Ben. If you had the self awareness, you would look at your own arguments and see a disturbing resemblance to your nemesis.Originally posted by Asher View Post
You have been turned into a toolbag by fully adopting the beliefs of those who are allied with you on a single issue.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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So why would Jaguar, an upstanding and honest Republican, not use in-kind numbers for his comparison with Canada?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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[Editorial note: This post refers to the NYC taxi discussion from earlier. I see that the thread has morphed into a discussion of homelessness in Canada vs. the US since then. Please proceed.]
Local party politics is at best marginally tied to national party platforms and policies. Snoop, you're in Chicago. Do you really think the city council there is full of fiscal/social liberals? By most any measure, the actual policies of the Chicago "machine" and the City Council have been, for the past 50+ years, much more conservative than the national party, both fiscally and socially. The council members are, in general, political hacks with loyalty to the status quo.
I maintain that there is nothing inherently "GOP" or "Dem" about local political parties, except insofar as they deliver votes for national candidates. Because local issues affect lives much more than the vagaries of national politics, their relationship to the national economic policies and social agendas of either party are far from being linear and predictable. Local politics are about winning local elections and staying in power.
I'm just saying that it has virtually no relationship with the national Democratic party per se, nor its policies, and that attempting to do so is a poor way for you to make your point.Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
Some fun facts:
1. The NYC cab medallion policy was instituted in 1937. Hardly an indicator of a modern Democratic plot against immigrants and the poor. It's much more about the difficulty of changing any established "rules of the game," which is more profoundly affected by potential re-election than by any national fiscal policy.
2. The city government does not set the price of medallions; they are sold either privately or at auction. This is the free market in action when demand outstrips supply. See also: rent controlled apartments, black market.
3. Roughly 82% of New York's estimated 60,000 current cab drivers are foreign-born.Last edited by -Jrabbit; September 24, 2012, 13:59.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
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He's exactly like Ben. What else do you call blatant intellectual dishonesty?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
He's only smart enough to fool people like you."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Why on earth would you want to remove those people from the total? There is a huge number of people for whom a home is a temporary thing that can depend on whether or not they miss a paycheck. Those people who find a home (which could well be a borrowed room with a friend, or a motel etc) can very easily be back on the streets the next month. Anyone having to stay in a shelter or on the streets is 'relevant'. If you don't believe me, then go try it sometime.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostComment
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You forget - he has carefully observed human suffering and knows exactly what to do to alleviate it. Unlike you.Originally posted by kentonio View Post
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Jaguar is brilliant. He was an econ student at Yale. He gets paid gobs of money to do complex calculations for an actuarial firm. He also understands what he is talking about.Originally posted by Asher View Post
He's also a far politer and nicer person than you seem to be. I frankly admire and envy his patience.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Surely, if one were to understand human suffering, one would be an actuary.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
It's like they always say - if you want someone who understands compassion and humanity, call up an actuary."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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To be fair, that number includes all sorts of people, probably including me at the moment (we are living in effectively temporary housing - a hotel - while we finish our house renovations). But I'm clearly not who Jaguar is trying to include. The most useful number is probably the number of people homeless for a certain period of time during a one year span - call it 3 months.Originally posted by kentonio View Post<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
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There are many kinds of brilliance, HC. I'm sure Jaguar is one hell of a human calculator and can figure out how to screw Insurance customers like nobody's business.
But it's quite clear when he comes to the grim realities of the real world, he's as in the dark as you have been."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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It's like my dad always says - if you want someone who understands compassion and humanity, call up a software engineer.Originally posted by Asher View PostIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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I'm not an engineer, and I'm going to let that insult pass.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
I'm a software designer who designs educational software for use in schools by children and teachers, with a particular emphasis on special needs children.
I'm making a difference, and I'm happy to do it. My empathy is what makes me so good at my job. I make "gobs of money" too, if that was your barometer for brilliance. Probably more than Jag."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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And before that you worked at a phone book company. Was it your immense Canadian empathy that made you good at that too?If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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