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Does it involve trickle-down economics?Originally posted by snoopy369 View PostAgain, what does any of this have with 'conservatism'? Criticize the nutjobs who deserve criticizing, not the perfectly reasonable economic philosophy
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Why does your economic philosophy need the "conservative" label so badly? It makes more sense to describe nutjobs like Ben Kenobi as "conservative".Originally posted by snoopy369 View PostAgain, what does any of this have with 'conservatism'? Criticize the nutjobs who deserve criticizing, not the perfectly reasonable economic philosophy
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He has no idea what he's talking about with homeless numbers.Originally posted by Guynemer View PostDepends on how you define "homeless". There are an additional estimated 1.5 million who have used temporary housing and/or shelters on a yearly basis, which would put us nicely into that 2-3 million number you posted.
He's being his usual disingenuous holier-than-thou self by using absurd estimates by activist groups with very loose definitions of homelessness and contrasting it with an absurdly conservative definition of homelessness for Americans.
Jaguar et al constantly do this - they've no concept of the real world. He just seriously claimed 1% of Canadians are homeless in a post. Has he ever been to Canada?
He is demonstrating another GOP trait -- fearmongering by making **** up about Canada."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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The Canadian federal government believes the number is 150,000, which is probably the right number to compare to the 600,000 of the US. Still a pretty large number comparatively.<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.
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ThanksOriginally posted by gribbler View PostIf you're like Jaguar then you're not a complete loon who would **** up the lives of the poor.
How bad are they, really? They observably support providing health care for seniors through a simple, straightforward government program (either Medicare or the Ryan Plan.) They just didn't support Obama's health care bill because they deemed it intrusive and complex and likely laden with giveaways and unintended consequences.Unfortunately a significant portion of the "Tea party" are and are replacing reasonable Republicans with nutjobs."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005
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You need to understand a difference in standards. The Canadian government has a far lower bar for what constitutes poverty and homelessness. It's an artifact of a more compassionate society.Originally posted by snoopy369 View PostThe Canadian federal government believes the number is 150,000, which is probably the right number to compare to the 600,000 of the US. Still a pretty large number comparatively."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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200 to 300 thousand is the conservative figure. Never have I seen the number estimated below 150,000, anywhere.Originally posted by Asher View PostHe has no idea what he's talking about with homeless numbers.
He's being his usual disingenuous holier-than-thou self by using absurd estimates by activist groups with very loose definitions of homelessness and contrasting it with an absurdly conservative definition of homelessness for Americans.
Jaguar et al constantly do this - they've no concept of the real world. He just seriously claimed 1% of Canadians are homeless in a post. Has he ever been to Canada?
He is demonstrating another GOP trait -- fearmongering by making **** up about Canada."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005
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Originally posted by Asher View PostThere are two kinds people who vote Republican: The incredibly wealthy and the incredibly stupid.
There are two kinds of people who vote Democrat: The compassionate and the incredibly stupid.
If you are not incredibly wealthy and you are voting Republican, you are incredibly stupid.
If you are not compassionate and you are voting Democrat, you are incredibly stupid.Bill Hicks“I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!'”
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You're either a liar or completely inept at the internet.Originally posted by Jaguar View Post200 to 300 thousand is the conservative figure. Never have I seen the number estimated below 150,000, anywhere."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Have you seriously ever been to Canada?
I don't even know what to say to someone who thinks 1% of the population being homeless in Canada is a conservative estimate."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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What's this from wiki?
Originally posted by WikiAs many as 3.5 million people experience homelessness in a given year (1% of the entire U.S. population or 10% of its poor), and about 842,000 people in any given week. Most were homeless temporarily.
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Shouldn't it be easy for you to show how wrong I am? With the GOP crushing the poor with its uniquely-right-wing economics, shouldn't Canada be leaps and bounds ahead of us? Shouldn't this be a slam dunk for your side of the argument?Originally posted by Asher View PostYou're either a liar or completely inept at the internet."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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You're so much like Ben, it's not even funny.Originally posted by Jaguar View PostShouldn't it be easy for you to show how wrong I am? With the GOP crushing the poor with its uniquely-right-wing economics, shouldn't Canada be leaps and bounds ahead of us? Shouldn't this be a slam dunk for your side of the argument?
Step 1: Make absurd, asinine comments not supported by reality
Step 2: Defend them in the face of opposition without citation
Step 3: Blame Obama (he's the President!)
Step 4: Make contradictory argument and hope no one will notice (Obama is making so many homeless people, but the GOP's policies are making homelessness better in the US than Canada!)
Step 5: Put the onus on others to prove or disprove your asinine comments
Once there is an international standard for what constitutes poverty and homelessness, then a comparison becomes useful. Until then, only complete tools will make the comparison -- using estimates which fit the narrative of their argument, and not reality.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the GOP."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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