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  • Samsung vs Apple: Apple wins, over $1B in damages awarded

    What a crock of ****.



    Jury Awards $1 Billion to Apple in Samsung Patent Case

    A jury awarded Apple more than $1 billion in damages after finding that Samsung infringed a series of Apple patents on smartphones and tablet computers, in a closely watched court case that could have broad implications for the mobile business.

    As the jury’s verdict was read in a federal court case in San Jose, Calif., Apple appeared to prevail on many of its claims against Samsung, according to Reuters. These included allegations that various Samsung products violated an Apple patent covering the “bounce back” effect when a user scrolls to the end of a list, and the pinch-to-zoom gesture that users make when they want to magnify an image on their screens.

    The nine-person jury deliberated for three days, fewer than many had expected for such a complex case. Jurors were required to fill out a 20-page verdict form with answers to over 700 questions relating to the particulars of the case.

    It was the first in a wave of legal cases in the United States involving smartphone patents to reach a jury trial, and the one with the highest profile because the parties in the suit, Samsung and Apple, are the two biggest makers of smartphones in the world.

    Apple had asked the jury to award it $2.5 billion in damages for what it said was Samsung’s violation of a handful of patents related to the physical design and software functions of the iPhone and iPad. In a countersuit, Samsung had demanded that Apple pay it $422 million for its own patent violations.

    The stakes in the case are enormous, in large part because Apple has become the most valuable public company ever through the blockbuster success of its mobile products. The lawsuit, and others like it by Apple, were an effort to respond to the rise of devices based on Google’s Android operating system, which Apple executives view as a knock-off of the software for the iPhone and iPad. Samsung is the biggest maker of Android smartphones.

    Analysts and legal experts had predicted that a victory for Apple in the case would send a signal to all Android device makers that they should make greater efforts to steer clear of features and design that resemble those of Apple products. A win for Samsung, on the other hand, could give Apple’s rivals greater leeway to copy Apple product products with impunity, making it harder for the company to distinguish its creations.

    The evidence Apple presented during the trial, including internal Samsung memos and strategy documents, left little doubt that the iPhone inspired a major effort by the Korean manufacturer to overhaul its mobile phone efforts.

    But a key question throughout the trial was whether the jury would decide that Samsung had stepped over the line by improperly copying Apple’s technologies.

    The verdict in the trial hardly concludes the legal battles over patents among companies in the mobile business. There a dozens of legal cases between Apple and Samsung winding their way through courts in other countries.
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  • #2
    So much for market competition.
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    • #3
      For such a complex case with massive repercussions, the fact 9 ordinary citizens decided its outcome with 3 days of deliberation by answering over 700 questions is ridiculous. They clearly had no ****ing idea what was going on and just wanted to go home.
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      • #4
        **** Apple.
        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • #5
          Appeal?
          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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          • #6
            That ruling is ridiculous though...Samsung have a patent that has to be licensed out, and Apple didn't pay anything for it...and Apple don't have to pay any damages to Samsung at all?

            Nationalism...
            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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            • #7
              Is already known what percentage of the 1B US-$ goes to the Jury?
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              • #8
                I'm reporting this thread for tech spam
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • #9
                  Thank god I don't give a ****.
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                  • #10
                    duty mod? no football on TV?
                    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                      Thank god I don't give a ****.
                      The impact of this ruling goes far and wide if it's upheld.

                      Essentially Apple has claimed they own natural touch interfaces. It'll be a cluster**** of massive proportions. They could sue every touch-screen vendor out there right now with this precedent, and that includes things like cars and alarm systems.
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                      • #12
                        I doubt it, that would be monopoly practice
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                        • #13
                          Dan Gillmor: A US jury has rubberstamped Apple's exploitation of the patent system. But Samsung's $1bn loss will cost consumers dear


                          Apple crushes Samsung in quest for global tech domination

                          A US jury has rubberstamped Apple's exploitation of the patent system. But Samsung's $1bn loss will cost consumers dear




                          A home-town jury has given Apple the world, or at least the United States, in its campaign to control the smart phone and tablet markets.

                          Samsung, which decisively lost the highest-profile case to date in Apple's sue-everywhere strategy against the Android operating system, will surely appeal the verdict handed down the San Jose, California, federal court on Friday afternoon. And even if Samsung ultimately has to pay the $1bn judgement, the company can afford it.

                          But we're likely to see a ban on many mobile devices from Samsung and other manufacturers in the wake of this case, as an emboldened Apple tries to create an unprecedented monopoly. If so, the ultimate loser will be competition in the technology marketplace, with even more power accruing to a company that already has too much.

                          The jury's quick decision – just two days of deliberations in an immensely complex case, with more than 100 pages of instructions from the judge – surely means the panel members had made up their minds in the courtroom and spent most of their time in the jury room filling out a 20-page form of checkboxes and granular detail. And on almost every point that mattered, they gave Apple what it wanted. The jury tossed out virtually all of Samsung's counter-claims against Apple for infringement on its own patents, and awarded no damages to Samsung.

                          Crucially, the jury found none of Apple's patents invalid, despite substantial evidence that others anticipated many of the innovations that Apple put together when it released its first iPhone. This is a shame, because Apple's abuse of our out-of-control patent system has given Apple its chief ammunition in its global campaign to destroy Google's Android operating system, which Samsung (and many others) adopted for its smart phones.

                          The California jury's decision came a day after three Korean judges handed down a mixed decision in a similar case, saying both companies had violated some patents and ordering several products – mostly older ones that barely figure in today's market – off store shelves.

                          Now, I'm not a fan of Samsung. Like so many others in the technology world, it has has behaved in ethically questionable ways. And it quite plainly did mimic much of the functionality of the iPhone – though it was Apple's longtime CEO, Steve Jobs, who famously quoted Picasso's adage that good artists copy and great artists steal.

                          But in recent years, I have become even less a fan of Apple. It is now the uber-bully of the technology industry, and is using its surging authority – and vast amounts of cash – in ways that are designed to lock down our future computing and communications in the newest frontier of smart phones and tablets.

                          In the end, Apple will settle for nothing less than outright capitulation by Samsung – and, by extension, other Android device makers – in what Jobs called a "thermonuclear war", which he planned, before his death, to wage on Android. If Apple is successful, either all Android manufacturers will pay Apple a license fee, or Apple will simply make it too expensive, via lawsuits, for other phone makers to compete. And if that happens, Apple's financial dominance in smart phones (Android leads in overall numbers of units sold) and overwhelming dominance in the tablet market could be insurmountable. Users of technology should worry about that scenario, for many reasons.

                          Even more than Microsoft during that company's most ruthless days in the 1990s, Apple wants control over how we use technology. It locks down the iOS, requiring that apps be offered or sold only though its own portal, and limits competition when a developer is doing anything that might have an impact on its own business. And as Apple expands into living rooms – a TV is widely believed to be on the horizon – and beyond, we have to ask: do we want a single company with such influence?

                          It's only fair to note that Apple fans are ecstatic at the prospect. They are eager to live in the embrace of their favorite company, and believe they get a safer and smoother experience by doing so. But those of us who believe we should be able to use what we buy the way we want to use it are less enthralled. We don't want Apple, or any other company, dictating – in fundamental ways – how we compute and communicate. Yet, that is precisely where we may be heading.

                          And what of the patent process that has given Apple such leverage?

                          Richard Posner, a well-respected federal judge in another Apple-versus-Android case (this one, which he threw out of court, involved Google's Motorola unit), has famously called said there are "serious problems" with the current patent system, warranting an overhaul. We're stuck with what we have for the moment, however.

                          And if Apple can abuse that off-the-rails system to thwart innovation and the iterative process that sees all tech companies build on the successes of the past, the most valuable company in the world will have more power than what it has richly earned through smart business practices.

                          The cases in Seoul, San Jose and around the world are about everyone's future. For people who believe in competition in technology, and freedom in how we use it, Friday's events were bleak, indeed.
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                          • #14
                            okay, got it now, thanks
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #15
                              That means Koreans will have choice and US people will have to buy i-devices ... ehhh... whatever, I just hope that Europeans judge as Koreans and not as Americans.

                              That would be hillarious if it ever ended this way - ie for next 20 years, you have to buy Android devices from abroad in the US
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