I want to believe in evolution

[Lorizael]

He's just as crazy now as he was when he was a Communist, but in very different ways.

[Wezil]

Yes, I accept that.

I'm leaning toward the latter theory.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes, and as you are going you realize that you were actually "blind" before you knew where to go.

Basically. At times you look back with wonder at the path that has been woven.

[C0ckney]

I reached that conclusion a couple years back. The boy's not right.

Was he busted by religion or drawn to religion because he was busted? I haven't decided yet.

kid spent many years misunderstanding marxism and now is spending his time misunderstanding christianity.

[The Market]

In the marketplace of ideas, evolution is a poorly selling product. Unless scientists are able to increase its appeal, the only solution is to lower the price. Teachers should attempt to teach evolution in less time, with fewer textbooks.

[Kidlicious]

Basically. At times you look back with wonder at the path that has been woven.

Yes. It's not really the way I would have chosen. I'm learning that it's probably not going to be in the future either. But when it's said and done it's about accepting that, surrendering to God.

[Kidlicious]

I reached that conclusion a couple years back. The boy's not right.

Was he busted by religion or drawn to religion because he was busted? I haven't decided yet.

It's not about religion for me. It's about God and having a relationship with Him. I read the bible. That's about it. I don't follow any dogma and I'm pretty unique in my christian beliefs. If a christian tells me something that I think is wrong I don't believe it. But if it makes sense I will.

[Robert]

Aeson, let's get rid of the analogy b/c we have a different take on it.

Let me ask you a hypothetical question, imagine that at a certain moment in time we would find full-proof evidence that our universe needs a cause, while we still lack any evidence that even suggests that 'the universe's cause' needs a cause or not. Would you then insist that, despite the lack of evidence, 'the universe's cause' needs a cause, because the universe itself needs a cause?

[kentonio]

"Atheism is just another religion" is a tired canard.

I just heard someone put it really nicely.

Atheism is a religion just like "off" is a TV channel.

[Aeson]

Let me ask you a hypothetical question, imagine that at a certain moment in time we would find full-proof evidence that our universe needs a cause, while we still lack any evidence that even suggests that 'the universe's cause' needs a cause or not. Would you then insist that, despite the lack of evidence, 'the universe's cause' needs a cause, because the universe itself needs a cause?

Of course not. I've steadily maintained that the answer to questions we don't know the answer to is "we don't know". In that hypothetical, whether or not the "cause of the universe" needed a cause would now be the unknown and deserve the treatment you are not willing to give to such things when they don't suit your world view.

You are the one who is assuming a first (or outside) cause for the universe without evidence to support it.

[Jon Miller]

It is a standard point of view from a scientific perspective, and has caused several ideas to develop:

Cosmic constant of Einstein (Physicists of his time favored the static universe, as it didn't need a cause)
String Landscape/MultiUniverse interpretation/etc

JM

[molly bloom]

Can we at least all agree that an action figure of the Hindu goddess Durga would be totally sweet if slightly sacrilegious?

I have a great batik of Kali-Durga in full demon squashing mode. Surprisingly it's from Bangladesh.

[molly bloom]

It's not about religion for me. I read the bible. That's about it. I don't follow any dogma and I'm pretty unique in my christian beliefs.

Okaay.... How not to make sense.

But if it makes sense I will.

How on earth would he know ?

[Docfeelgood]

I have come to the conclusion that it is not a good idea to teach intelligent design in schools today.

[The Mad Monk]

In other news, black is white, up is down and Romney will win this years election.

Now that's change I can believe in!