Is George Zimmerman white?

[Docfeelgood]

This is considered black or white depending on if you did or didn't vote for him or your political party affiliation.

[Al B. Sure!]

Are you not familiar with the one drop rule or are you expressing incredulity at something you're already familiar with?

Why are we still using and upholding racist ideas that were tools of oppression and disenfranchisement?

If we did a genetic test on Harold Ford, I'd have no doubt in my mind the man is at least 3/4 European. At least. Then he'd be white, not Black.

[Docfeelgood]

Texas sounds like a ****hole of ignorance and racism.

Come to think of it? it does sound racist now that you mention it.
Hearing it all my life I just excepted it as fact.

[Docfeelgood]

Are you not familiar with the one drop rule or are you expressing incredulity at something you're already familiar with?

Thanks, I learned something today because of you Gribbler.
one drop rule

[Al B. Sure!]

I known 50% amerindian 50% european people and they look darker.
Also, don't forget most of the natives in the USA have white ancestry, you don't have a lot of pure natives like in Peru, Bolivia or Central America.

I wonder how the Puerto Ricans I know who don't consider themselves white would be viewed in say Ecuador.

[Docfeelgood]

I wonder how the Puerto Ricans I know who don't consider themselves white would be viewed in say Ecuador.

My first wife is a Puerto Rican. I learned that they do not like being called Hispanic.

[giblets]

Why are we still using and upholding racist ideas that were tools of oppression and disenfranchisement?

If we did a genetic test on Harold Ford, I'd have no doubt in my mind the man is at least 3/4 European. At least. Then he'd be white, not Black.

They won't oppress and disenfranchise very many people now, will they? So who cares if Obama is considered black? Seems to have made blacks feel more empowered.

[Al B. Sure!]

They won't oppress and disenfranchise very many people now, will they? So who cares if Obama is considered black? Seems to have made blacks feel more empowered.

It makes biracial and lightskinned people confused and self-hating. You wouldn't believe what lightskinned people have said to me about they hate their complexion because it's a reminder of when white slave owners raped their Black ancestors. WHAT THE FLYING ****?!

Puerto Ricans do the same thing about Taino Indians... identifying with the oppressed natives and not with the oppressive Spanish even though the most recent genetic studies of Puerto Ricans show that they are, on average, less than 10% Taino (some older studies erroneously had this number higher). ****ing weird. Your ancestors were the oppressors, not the oppressed. Deal with it. Every culture has done ****ed up ****.

And it plain doesn't make any sense. It's like someone having a Cherokee great grand-mother claiming to be an American Indian.

[giblets]

It makes biracial and lightskinned people confused and self-hating. You wouldn't believe what lightskinned people have said to me about they hate their complexion because it's a reminder of when white slave owners raped their Black ancestors. WHAT THE FLYING ****?!

Puerto Ricans do the same thing about Taino Indians... identifying with the oppressed natives and not with the oppressive Spanish even though the most recent genetic studies of Puerto Ricans show that they are, on average, less than 10% Taino (some older studies erroneously had this number higher). ****ing weird. Your ancestors were the oppressors, not the oppressed. Deal with it. Every culture has done ****ed up ****.

And it plain doesn't make any sense. It's like someone having a Cherokee great grand-mother claiming to be an American Indian.

You think people will hate themselves if they believe their ancestors were oppressed but not if they believe their ancestors were oppressors? Weird. People will suddenly be oblivious to humanity being terrible if they consider themselves white? Well, actually that might be true in America.

[Docfeelgood]

it's a reminder of when white slave owners raped their Black ancestors

Bull****! either this person is delusional to the fact that his or her grandparents had a thing for white women or men, or they live too much in the past blaming there current problems on something that happened hundreds of years ago.
A person of mixed black/white is not excepted by either color. Too black for the whites and too white for the blacks.
A lot of the mixing came about by prostitution.

[regexcellent]

This is all why when people ask what my ancestry is I just say "American."

[Docfeelgood]

This is all why when people ask what my ancestry is I just say "American."

sounds good to me

[Dr Strangelove]

This is all why when people ask what my ancestry is I just say "American."

The problem with that is that it skews the surveys of ancestry in the US. Throughout most of my lifetime surveys of American ancestry / heritage / ethnicity would conclude that the largest segement of the American population were of English / British ancestry. Now, thanks to the addition of "Amercian" as ancestry choice Germans are the largest group. I hope they change the language to reflect the new German dominance.

[Al B. Sure!]

The problem with that is that it skews the surveys of ancestry in the US. Throughout most of my lifetime surveys of American ancestry / heritage / ethnicity would conclude that the largest segement of the American population were of English / British ancestry. Now, thanks to the addition of "Amercian" as ancestry choice Germans are the largest group. I hope they change the language to reflect the new German dominance.

I'm always surprised it isn't Italian or Irish. Must be just on the East Coast.

[regexcellent]

My ancestry is primarily English and Irish, but there's a ridiculous amount of other stuff in there too so it's not worth classifying in my opinion.