Chinese teenager 'kills eight in knife attack

[regexcellent]

You don't need to know who manufactures guns and what pedantic type they are to know they have no place in a civilized society.

THE ONLY meaningful difference between an AR-15 and an ordinary hunting rifle is the fact that it uses a smaller caliber than usual and thus has more manageable recoil.

This was the previous United States service weapon:



It looks like a goddamn hunting rifle, doesn't it? That would be because it is one. It's sold in the civilian world as the M1A and is very popular for large game. The AR-15, with its smaller cartridge, is easier to shoot and has lower recoil. In addition, its stock is better designed to handle the recoil and prevent muzzle rise. The AR-15 is used to hunt small game, and as a target rifle. It's also used in some home defense situations, but that's better served by a shotgun. Here's another instructive example:



That's my shotgun. It's a 20-gauge Remington 870 express, good for clay pigeons and hunting. It would take maybe five minutes to change out the parts to make it look like this 12-gauge combat shotgun (courtesy google image search):

[Snotty]

The War on Drugs, Mandatory Minimums, and short sighted politicians who wanted to look "tough on crime" gave us the world's largest prison population. Guns have jack **** to do with it. But thanks for inflicting your ignorance on us.

You dont know how glad I am to learn that only your country has short sighted politicians LMFAO

And Im sure your ignorant gun laws are exactly the **** thats leaving your country as the first world homicide capital of the world

[regexcellent]

Don't lecture us on how to run a country when your GDP per capita is still by far the lowest in the English-speaking world.

[The Mad Monk]

Draconian drug laws give you the largest prison population in the world, and a homicide rate only challenged by the third world. Those arent exactly answers, but they are facts.

And I know the least about guns. I thought AR meant assault rifle too. I blame video games.

FTFY

[regexcellent]

Our homicide rate doesn't come close to places like Ecuador, Mexico, South Africa, and Nigeria. It's within an order of magnitude of the rest of the first world. Honestly, even in the ****ing Rochester ghettos, that's right, RUST BELT GHETTOS I have never felt particularly unsafe. Mind your own business and don't get mixed up with drugs and gangs.

[Snotty]

Don't lecture us on how to run a country when your GDP per capita is still by far the lowest in the English-speaking world.

WTF are you talking about?

In the last decade the UK opened its borders to over 300 million people, resulting in millions of immigrants over the last 8 years, driving down prices, labour costs and GDP. If you add onto that a worldwide reccesion that hit the UK harder, but is recovering far faster than the rest of Europe and you will have an understanding why the GDP is lower

If youre refering to NZ then, seriously, you should know better than to pick on a tiny island at the end of the world...But if thats what makes you feel big then go for it

Im not trying to lecture you on anything, Im trying to have a rational discussion to the betterment of both our understandings. There are some Americans here who can achieve that without getting defensive, and some who cant.

[Felch]

Im not trying to lecture you on anything, Im trying to have a rational discussion to the betterment of both our understandings. There are some Americans here who can achieve that without getting defensive, and some who cant.

Nothing you've said so far has had anything to do with a rational discussion. You're just here to talk ****, and the fact that you don't know what you're talking about doesn't seem to bother you.

[SlowwHand]

I've never even fired my Mossberg. I bought it and some Heavy Bird Shot shells and put it in my closet. Hopefully, it will never see the light of day or a moonlit night.
If it does, someone will have had a bad day.

[Snotty]

Our homicide rate doesn't come close to places like Ecuador, Mexico, South Africa, and Nigeria.

I cant understand if this is even a joke. South Africa is a country where white moneyed people live in defended compounds with private security forces. If you break down on the highway theres a very real chance youre going to get shot and robbed there while youre vunerable. If thats the metric youre measuring yourself by then you need to see some more of the world

The rest of your examples are in decreasing relevance even to South Africa.

The War on Drugs, Mandatory Minimums, and short sighted politicians who wanted to look "tough on crime"

Do you really think youre the only first world country that has suffered under these limitations? And yet you have outstanding rates of incarceration and shocking rates of homicide. Why arent other countrys suffering under similarly uncivilised conditions, when they are subject to similar legislation?

[Snotty]

Nothing you've said so far has had anything to do with a rational discussion. You're just here to talk ****, and the fact that you don't know what you're talking about doesn't seem to bother you.

Im open to discussion, if you just want to call names instead of face facts then theres plenty of other boards that can insult me far more thoroughly than you can

I come here for reasoned discussion

[SlowwHand]

Or at least insulted in a clever manner. Being ignored is the worst, but being insulted with a worn out cliché is almost as bad, don't you think?

[Felch]

Do you really think youre the only first world country that has suffered under these limitations? And yet you have outstanding rates of incarceration and shocking rates of homicide. Why arent other countrys suffering under similarly uncivilised conditions, when they are subject to similar legislation?

Do other countries have the same federal sentencing guidelines that we have? It's common knowledge that America's prison population shot up over the last few decades because of changes in the law. The New York Times, Washington Post, and PBS don't seem to think it has anything to do with guns. Of course, you know more about America than the people who actually live here.

Im open to discussion, if you just want to call names instead of face facts then theres plenty of other boards that can insult me far more thoroughly than you can

I come here for reasoned discussion

You're not open to discussion, you're not interested in facts, and you're absolutely ignorant about America.

Read more, and write less. You might actually learn something.

[Snotty]

Youre telling me to lurk more? have you even seen my post count

Youre barking up the wrong tree if you think Im just here to talk ****. I click links, Im open minded to arguements. Im here to learn more about the world in a civilised and intellectual environment. When I defend Americans to most every other country that wants to put them down - Its the Americans I have met through this very site that I cite as examples of the best of humanity

Felch, youre picking a fight with a ghost, a poster that I am not.

[giblets]

The "AR" in AR-15 comes from the ArmaLite (original company that designed it) name. '****.

Interesting. Thank you for that bit of educational info

[SlowwHand]

Youre telling me to lurk more? have you even seen my post count

Youre barking up the wrong tree if you think Im just here to talk ****. I click links, Im open minded to arguements. Im here to learn more about the world in a civilised and intellectual environment. When I defend Americans to most every other country that wants to put them down - Its the Americans I have met through this very site that I cite as examples of the best of humanity

Felch, youre picking a fight with a ghost, a poster that I am not.

Yeah, Snotty has never given me unwarranted crap, just for the sake of doing so. No one agrees with anyone all the time, unless you're a moron or something.
A parrot. A parrot moron.