Homosexuality Will Cease to Exist Someday

[DriXnaK]

Assuming that the procedure doesn't carry the risks of sideffects, I don't see how ending homosexuality harms society.

[giblets]

Overpopulation is really the only scenario I can think of where preventing homosexuality would harm society.

[Aeson]

Why is it more abhorrent to alter a fetus' genetics or take corrective action on it than outright killing it?

I already answered this. Learn to read.

For that matter, if you're allowed to kill the fetus' as part of a woman's choice and right to control her body, then isn't the fetus in and of itself an extension of her body and therefore she can do with it as she pleases in any way she sees fit?

No. The "allowed to kill the fetus" is obviously only allowed because in the eyes of the law the action is not affecting a human being deserving of rights. In the case where the action obviously will affect a human being deserving of rights, there is an additional factor to take into account. Of course you aren't intelligent enough to understand this distinction

Is your inability to reason also the cause of your flight from society?

Just because you're too stupid to be able to read and comprehend the reason I have already given doesn't mean it's not there. That you claim Filipinos are not part of society shows very clearly what a prejudiced bigot you are.

[DriXnaK]

I already answered this. Learn to read.

I read your answer and found it inadequate.

No. The "allowed to kill the fetus" is obviously only allowed because in the eyes of the law the action is not affecting a human being deserving of rights. In the case where the action obviously will affect a human being deserving of rights, there is an additional factor to take into account. Of course you aren't intelligent enough to understand this distinction

Ok, so by your reasoning then, the mother is allowed to pass judgement on whether the fetus possesses the right to live. In the event she passes judgement allowing the fetus to live, the law steps in and takes away her choice to modify the fetus in anyway. Holy ****...you are insane. I also find the fact that you feel there is no harm to society in destroying unborn children disturbing. Perhaps it is a good thing you will never have any noticeable influence on society.

Just because you're too stupid to be able to read and comprehend the reason I have already given doesn't mean it's not there. That you claim Filipinos are not part of society shows very clearly what a prejudiced bigot you are.

First, if you want to get into an argument about intelligence, awesome. We can start by comparing ourselves. I learned programming in 6 weeks and then got myself a job doing it. You couldn't make it in the society you grew up in and so decided to flee to a less developed society where the pressures to perform would be absent. That you then somehow managed to turn this into some soppy emotional argument about how I'm bigoted against Filipinos just goes to show what an emotionally off kilter guy you really are. I'm very thankful you're no longer in this country.

Oh, and get a new avatar. Even Albi takes better pictures of himself.

[Aeson]

I read your answer and found it inadequate.

You obviously didn't understand it, since you go on to misrepresent it...

Ok, so by your reasoning then, the mother is allowed to pass judgement on whether the fetus possesses the right to live.

No. The government passes judgment on whether or not the fetus is a human deserving of rights. The mother can choose (within the confines of the law) whether to have an abortion or not.

This is not my reasoning either, it's just reality.

In the event she passes judgement allowing the fetus to live, the law steps in and takes away her choice to modify the fetus in anyway.

It may or may not. It is very likely there would be some modifications allowed, and some not allowed. Obviously diffrent modifications will have different perceived positive or negative impacts. It's perfectly reasonable to judge each individually, contrary to your insinuations that it's all or nothing. But in any case that part hasn't been decided yet, and I haven't made any claim to support a ban on the matter in question. As I've already said in this thread (which you claim to have read, but obviously haven't understood) that I'm perfectly fine with having the parents decide in the hypothetical case of sexuality.

You obviously can't understand the difference between finding one type of modification disgusting with banning it (and absurdly, you can't even understand the difference between that and banning all modifications).

Holy ****...you are insane.

If only you knew how...

I also find the fact that you find there is no harm to society in destroying unborn children disturbing. Perhaps it is a good thing you will never have any noticeable influence on society.

I have not addressed that issue. If you wish to know my stance there, the correct method would be to ask. Divination doesn't seem to be a strong suit of yours. (Then again, understanding responses to your questions isn't something you can hang your hat on either.)

First, if you want to get into an argument about intelligence, awesome. We can start by comparing ourselves. I learned programming in 6 weeks and then got myself a job doing it.

Congrats, I also make my living working with computers (including programming). Learning programming isn't very tough, it's something I did on a lark as a teenager. If you had real intelligence you wouldn't use it as a measuring stick for intelligence. People of rather mundane intelligence can do it.

You couldn't make it in the society you grew up in and so decided to flee to a less developed society where the pressures to perform would be absent.

You have it completely backwards. I lead a very easy life in the US where there was no pressure to perform. I spent my days doing whatever I liked (video games and at the beach) for several years. I could still be doing so if I wanted.

Life in the US is easy. Here I have many people depending on me. There aren't the support systems and infrastructure that you're born with in the US. I find the challenges and opportunities enjoyable.

That you then somehow managed to turn this into some soppy emotional argument about how I'm bigoted against Filipinos just goes to show what an emotionally off kilter guy you really are. I'm very thankful you're no longer in this country.

You claimed I left society. The simple fact is I am much more integrated in society here than I ever was in the US. The only reasonable interpretation of your statement is that you feel that Filipino society doesn't count.

Oh, and get a new avatar. Even Albi takes better pictures of himself.

I'm pleased you don't like it.

[Robert]

If we find the means to get white people a black skin, how many white people do you think that would prefer a black skin? Even if it saves them better from cancer? Sexual preferences are a part of someone's identity and being. I doubt that many would change. Perhaps a few. And some parents may 'change' heir babies. But I'm sure that the grand majority will refuse designer babies and since in the western world homosexuality is nearly 100% accepted I doubt that many parents will by then insist on having heterosexual children.

[giblets]

What happens if designer babies are generally smarter and more successful than regular babies? Are a majority of parents still going to refuse it?

[Robert]

What happens if designer babies are generally smarter and more successful than regular babies? Are a majority of parents still going to refuse it?

If everybody makes designer babies, everybody will accept it and take them.
The masses will always follow the masses.
But till we get there..... I think it's a long road and it's not guaranteed that we'll eventually be able to do a good job at making designer babies.

[ricketyclik]

Who says it can't be a gene that all humans carry? Also, the whole point of this wasn't to pinpoint the exact cause, it was to show that eventually there will be a cure of sorts for it whatever its cause. Why you're trying to use today's level of science to determine the capabilities of future science is beyond me. Chances are very good that not only will a cause be found, it will also be possible to correct it. Whether that's in 10 years or 500 years, who knows.

I reckon it's to do with Higg's bosons. Just look at the navy.

[ricketyclik]

Assuming that the procedure doesn't carry the risks of sideffects, I don't see how ending homosexuality harms society.

Reduction of diversity.

[Elok]

Reduction of diversity.

Do you mean genetic diversity, with a nod towards heterozygote advantage and such, or are you subscribing to the notion that having everybody different is somehow intrinsically good?

[ricketyclik]

Do you mean genetic diversity, with a nod towards heterozygote advantage and such, or are you subscribing to the notion that having everybody different is somehow intrinsically good?

Both, although I'm not saying having everybody different is good - diversity in diversity if you will.

The old not having all your eggs in one basket strategy.

[Dr Strangelove]

Last I heard, there was some speculation that it was linked to sudden hormone surges from the mother in utero, or something.

Mere speculation. Call me when there is actual proof that has been repeatedly reproduced.

[MrFun]

All of this discussion is ridiculous, considering that none of you are even including gay people in this discussion.

[Elok]

All of this discussion is ridiculous, considering that none of you are even including gay people in this discussion.

How so? The question of how gay people might view this isn't especially relevant, since most of y'all don't have biological children and the thread is mostly concerned with parents modding out the gay from their kids.