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  • #61
    To get a decent programming job (even just code monkey) I would imagine pretty much everyone expects a college degree in CS at this point.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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    • #62
      Originally posted by DriXnaK View Post
      Seriously, I would recommend you go with C# before Java. Java just plain sucks. Find this book: The Object-Oriented Thought Process 3ed this is a good book for object oriented programming in general. For C# I recommend: CSharp 2010 and the dotNET 4 Platform 5th Edition. Just google these for ebooks and grab VS 2010 through other means as well.
      Java does not suck, what are you on?
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • #63
        Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
        So basically you just write a blog and collect money from ads? That pays well enough to live off of?
        Not just blogs. Not just ads. (Some affiliate/commission/referral sales. Some sales of my own products.)

        There's an extremely wide variation on how much you can make from a website. As I said earlier, I'd expect about $1/mo per 500 word article. I've done better than that in most of my writing projects, sometimes significantly so (such as the $2/word website last year). Most of the people I know who do this full time do about the $1/mo per article though. If you wrote 20 per day, after a year you'd have a good shot at having an income of more than $5k/mo that would likely last for 10-14 months if you never did any more work. (Standard sale price for a no-name website is 10-14 months earnings, which means that's around the market's expected lifespan for the earnings without further input.)

        Of course there's risk involved. You could end up with a 0. Some of the websites I've made have never earned a penny. It happens. It could also really take off. The lady who put together dogbreedinfo.com for instance (a very famous example since Adsense highlighted it). She was making $600 per day several years ago. Last time I looked at her rankings she was getting traffic worth around $1 million a month to advertisers. I'd guess she only captures a fraction of it, but she's probably making 6 figures a month.

        What definitely is possible for just about anyone who can write average internet English is to sell $10 articles. If you approach it as a full time job, you should be able to make at least a couple thousand a month. It's a lot of writing, but 20 of those articles a day is certainly possible. I can't stand to write anywhere near that much, though when I write it's at better than that pace usually. I know people who write 30-40 of them a day.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
          Don't forget he lives in the Philippines. And I think he has a farm.
          I actually spend more here than I ever did in the US. Of course it goes a lot further here, part of the reason I feel it's worth it to earn/use more.

          The farm still isn't helping yet in that regard.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Aeson View Post
            For me it's less intimidating than finding a job that you know is going to schedule away the next 30-40 years of my life somewhere I wouldn't choose to live.

            If you don't like doing keyword research, just write about topics that interest you. It doesn't have to be anything special. Just get it up on the internet whether it's on your own site or some third party that has ad revenue sharing (the ones I mentioned before). 10k posts suggest you can do it.

            The benefits are you can work however much you want to, whenever you want to, wherever you want to (as long as you can get online), and the ceiling is just about limitless.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Aeson View Post
              Not just blogs. Not just ads. (Some affiliate/commission/referral sales. Some sales of my own products.)

              There's an extremely wide variation on how much you can make from a website. As I said earlier, I'd expect about $1/mo per 500 word article. I've done better than that in most of my writing projects, sometimes significantly so (such as the $2/word website last year). Most of the people I know who do this full time do about the $1/mo per article though. If you wrote 20 per day, after a year you'd have a good shot at having an income of more than $5k/mo that would likely last for 10-14 months if you never did any more work. (Standard sale price for a no-name website is 10-14 months earnings, which means that's around the market's expected lifespan for the earnings without further input.)

              Of course there's risk involved. You could end up with a 0. Some of the websites I've made have never earned a penny. It happens. It could also really take off. The lady who put together dogbreedinfo.com for instance (a very famous example since Adsense highlighted it). She was making $600 per day several years ago. Last time I looked at her rankings she was getting traffic worth around $1 million a month to advertisers. I'd guess she only captures a fraction of it, but she's probably making 6 figures a month.

              What definitely is possible for just about anyone who can write average internet English is to sell $10 articles. If you approach it as a full time job, you should be able to make at least a couple thousand a month. It's a lot of writing, but 20 of those articles a day is certainly possible. I can't stand to write anywhere near that much, though when I write it's at better than that pace usually. I know people who write 30-40 of them a day.
              Well I applied for an AdSense account, I'll guess I'll see how I do.
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              • #67
                Java does suck. I'll take the microsoft stack of products and C# any day over a Java driven solution.

                As far as needing a CS degree, that's bull****.

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                • #68
                  Yeah, 90% of all the programmers that I've hired didn't have CS degrees.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
                    Well I applied for an AdSense account, I'll guess I'll see how I do.
                    I take it you already have a website?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                      I take it you already have a website?
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by rah View Post
                        Yeah, 90% of all the programmers that I've hired didn't have CS degrees.
                        That's the beauty of computer technology and why I am thankful my Dad got that sales job at Control Data back in 1981. If it weren't for his constant tech sales jobs I probably would have had a very different life.
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                        • #72
                          oo lala when you google Ozzy's real name, google auto-finishes it for you. Then it comes up with all these hits, including the wikipedia article on him. Got his photo on the side of the search results. Related searches include: "exclusive interview *********" Exclusive. Sexy.

                          We have such a celebrity here
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                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • #73
                            And he's got at least one stalker to prove it.
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                            • #74
                              When you google my real name you're taken to the Linkedin profile for the only other person in the country who shares my name. My aunt met him on an airplane once ("hey you have the same name as my nephew"), apparently he's a douchebag ("**** you lady").
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                              • #75
                                OMG, do we have the same name, loin?
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