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  • #46
    i would imagine that recidivism is due to the lack of opportunities to live an honest life if you've already been inside, rather than a desire to actually be inside.

    the real question should be why so many men see crime as the best option open to them to make a living. this of course leads to questions about economic opportunities and social inequality.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
      i would imagine that recidivism is due to the lack of opportunities to live an honest life if you've already been inside, rather than a desire to actually be inside.

      the real question should be why so many men see crime as the best option open to them to make a living. this of course leads to questions about economic opportunities and social inequality.
      No. It raises questions about culture. It's the view of the inevitability of a criminal lifestyle; the view that it is normal/typical/expected of Black men to be criminals at age 17-30, the same way that is normal/typical/expected of people to go to college, get drunk a lot, experiment with drugs, etc.

      It's not economics. It's what people are taught they are supposed to be like; taught what they are supposed to emulate. It's what they follow.
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
        Looks like summer camp or boot-camp to me.
        What kind of non-preppy summer camps did you go to?
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        • #49
          It does actually look kinda like boy scout camp, only with more tattoos, sturdier buildings and uglier uniforms.

          That said, I absolutely hated boy scout camp.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            It does actually look kinda like boy scout camp, only with more tattoos, sturdier buildings and uglier uniforms.
            And less "experimentation."
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            "Capitalism ho!"

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            • #51
              I was 12 when I was at boy scout camp. Most of the kids' balls hadn't dropped yet. No experimentation.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                What kind of non-preppy summer camps did you go to?
                Never went to summer camp. The closest thing was a day-camp at the playground when I was six.

                Summer camps are for rich folk.
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                  No. It raises questions about culture. It's the view of the inevitability of a criminal lifestyle; the view that it is normal/typical/expected of Black men to be criminals at age 17-30, the same way that is normal/typical/expected of people to go to college, get drunk a lot, experiment with drugs, etc.

                  It's not economics. It's what people are taught they are supposed to be like; taught what they are supposed to emulate. It's what they follow.
                  Whenever I see a black boy--at the supermarket, for example--I'm sure to ask his parents if they've picked out a prison for him yet. If they haven't, I advise them to start him early with some petty shoplifting, perhaps at that very store. The really prestigious slammers are increasingly selective. I hear Marion won't even take you until you've shanked at least a couple at an institution of lower repute.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    Never went to summer camp. The closest thing was a day-camp at the playground when I was six.

                    Summer camps are for rich folk.
                    I don't think sending your kid to a summer camp is particularly expensive.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Elok View Post
                      Whenever I see a black boy--at the supermarket, for example--I'm sure to ask his parents if they've picked out a prison for him yet. If they haven't, I advise them to start him early with some petty shoplifting, perhaps at that very store. The really prestigious slammers are increasingly selective. I hear Marion won't even take you until you've shanked at least a couple at an institution of lower repute.


                      I don't know what you have been smoking lately but I am truly envious.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                        Never went to summer camp. The closest thing was a day-camp at the playground when I was six.

                        Summer camps are for rich folk.


                        Too bad you don't live here.

                        I'd buy you a Timmie's tent and help send you to camp.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Wezil View Post


                          I don't know what you have been smoking lately but I am truly envious.
                          I'm not really sleeping as much as I should; does that count? Other than that it's just a tiny bit of booze and I haven't posted drunk in years.
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                          • #58
                            What happened to people with aspergers having no sense of humor? Was that just an incorrect stereotype?

                            And OCS was the first time I've been in the 'wild' so to speak... assuming a major military base right outside our capital is the wild. We still slept in tents and that's more outdoors than I've experienced before.

                            One time we were standing in formation at night and I was shocked to see the sky filled with stars. I've seen stars in the night's sky before but not like this. The entire sky was speckled with tiny lights.
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              What happened to people with aspergers having no sense of humor? Was that just an incorrect stereotype?

                              And OCS was the first time I've been in the 'wild' so to speak... assuming a major military base right outside our capital is the wild. We still slept in tents and that's more outdoors than I've experienced before.

                              One time we were standing in formation at night and I was shocked to see the sky filled with stars. I've seen stars in the night's sky before but not like this. The entire sky was speckled with tiny lights.
                              What other dumb stereotypes about people with aspergers have you come up with?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                One time we were standing in formation at night and I was shocked to see the sky filled with stars. I've seen stars in the night's sky before but not like this. The entire sky was speckled with tiny lights.
                                Reminds of when my grandfather first saw dolphins when he was in the military. Freaked him the hell out. Now it's part of a regular breakfast.
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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