Israeli Minister: Israel 'belongs to the white man'

[Dinner]

Look at most countries in east Asia, most countries in Europe, even at least half of the countries in Africa. The old world really does often have a nationality = race thing for thousands of years. The new world is different but mainly because it's so young and historically has had a high immigration rate. We're talking reality here rather than wishful thinking.

[giblets]

Albert Speer only wants the Germans to do it, I guess.

[Felch]

Alby is just another in a long line of Nazi loving Arabs.

[Dr Strangelove]

AFAIK most Sephardic Jews are white. Most North Africans and Middle Easterners are white. Ethiopian Jews aren't, but I'm not sure that they're technically Sephardic.

Why jail the illegals for 3 years? Wouldn't it be more sensible to deport them?

[Felch]

Ethiopian Jews would be Mizrahi. These weren't Jews though, they're Christians apparently.

[Al B. Sure!]

AFAIK most Sephardic Jews are white. Most North Africans and Middle Easterners are white. Ethiopian Jews aren't, but I'm not sure that they're technically Sephardic.

Why jail the illegals for 3 years? Wouldn't it be more sensible to deport them?

They can't. It's against international law to deport Sudanese and Eritreans because of the situations in their countries. However, Israelis are getting to deport South Sudanese who no longer have those protections with the newly-formed South Sudan.

[Dr Strangelove]

I thought that the war between Ehtiopia and Eritrea had ended a decade ago? Why should Eritreans have priviledges that other Africans don't?

[Alexander's Horse]

That guy is wrong - Australia for the white man was the slogan back in the day not/not Israel

We had the "White Australia" policy until 1967!!!!!!!!!

[Zevico]

That guy is wrong - Australia for the white man was the slogan back in the day not/not Israel

We had the "White Australia" policy until 1967!!!!!!!!!

This is rather off topic, but that is true. Australia did. But I think Australians can exaggerate the effect of this policy and its implications. Non whites may have been treated as not entitled to emigrate here on a permanent basis, but that is substantially different from saying that they had no rights. And when one reads the objections to foreigners put by some persons of the time, they are based not on eugenic grounds, but often also in terms of cultural differences--the fear that migrants would swamp out and destroy the base Ango culture. This is not to say that Australia was a paradise for non-whites, and that some were not cruelly treated. I simply make the point that Australian culture was more tolerant than it is now fashionable to say. The political ideas that founded our currently non-racist policy, were there in the making well before it. It's not hard to see once you start looking for it.

It quite amazed me to see it myself but there are examples in the legal and constitutional context as well, which may interest you--see e.g. Potter v Minahan (1908) 7 CLR 277 (available on austllii).


Now, that's a world of difference from killing non-whites wholesale or what have you. There are different forms of racism, some more severe than others.

[Zevico]

AFAIK most Sephardic Jews are white. Most North Africans and Middle Easterners are white.

In terms of skin colour some are. But most don't think of themselves as such if they bother to think about it all. Certainly a member of Shas or a Sephardi Jew wouldn't think of himself as white if he were a supporter of Shas. In this case race is not a matter of skin colour but of perceived culturual-religious identity. It goes both ways: note how white supremacists are unwilling to accord the same "skin colour" to Middle Easterners for example.

[Al B. Sure!]

Was waiting for this thread to attract the e-IDF