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Can't afford his 30 kids but says he needs a break from child support.
Remove welfare for children. It creates dependency, encourages teenage pregnancy and one parent families.
Money could be re-directed to provide adoption services for those that cannot afford the children they have. Parents should have to take responsibilty for the children they create.
I'm not saying it is easy, but what we've got creates so many problems.
You're happy with the status quo?
Last edited by kittenOFchaos; May 19, 2012, 15:36.
Reason: Typo.
Basically "screw the children, they should either be destitute or separated from their parents" is your position. I think the status quo is vastly preferable. Teen pregnancies are in decline. I really don't think welfare pays enough to make one parent families preferable.
1. castrate him
2. enslave him and force him to work even more
3. cut off welfare for the children who need it
I guess we should wonder why the poor are allowed to reproduce at all
The first thing that needs to happen is removing the incentive to have more kids in order to get more welfare. Do what Texas does and cap it at 2-3 kids after which if you have more kids you don't get more welfare. Yes, that will mean less per kid making life difficult but it should be enough for them to survive and if not then the kids could always be taken by child protective services if their mother (I won't even pretend the father is involved with them) doesn't take care of them. It's a crappy situation but they put themselves in that position deliberately to try to work the welfare system. The abuse needs to stop.
The first thing that needs to happen is removing the incentive to have more kids in order to get more welfare. Do what Texas does and cap it at 2-3 kids after which if you have more kids you don't get more welfare. Yes, that will mean less per kid making life difficult but it should be enough for them to survive and if not then the kids could always be taken by child protective services if their mother (I won't even pretend the father is involved with them) doesn't take care of them. It's a crappy situation but they put themselves in that position deliberately to try to work the welfare system. The abuse needs to stop.
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As a great philosopher once said, "Are their no prisons?... And the union workhouses - are they still in operation? "
Ah, for the freedom and equality of Victorian England.
Yes, kOc, you could afford a house back then, and probably 2 or 3 Desmond Hatchetts... if he produced too many kids to work your household and lands, you could always sell them at as tidy profit.
Our stupid Con government in Canada is building more prisons, specifically because 'work houses' might look bad, but the intent is the same.
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
There is no way the guy is surviving on 10 hours of minimum wage work per week so he has to be getting money from some where else. It's pure speculation but the guy is probably doing something illegal, like selling drugs, in order to make money off of the books. That would also explain why so many women agree to have sex with him even though he has 30 kids he doesn't take care of and 11 baby mommas which he knocked up and dropped. The women are probably drug addicts and he offers them free or discounted crack for sex which explains why he's knocking up so many hood rats. Failing that I suppose he really could just be the hood rat whisperer.
Did you ever think that maybe he's surviving by living with the women he's knocking up? If he gets tired of one, he can move in with another, and knock her up too. He could just be charismatic and dangerous.
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
The first thing that needs to happen is removing the incentive to have more kids in order to get more welfare. Do what Texas does and cap it at 2-3 kids after which if you have more kids you don't get more welfare. Yes, that will mean less per kid making life difficult but it should be enough for them to survive and if not then the kids could always be taken by child protective services if their mother (I won't even pretend the father is involved with them) doesn't take care of them. It's a crappy situation but they put themselves in that position deliberately to try to work the welfare system. The abuse needs to stop.
How about some evidence that people are actually churning out babies so that they can get the welfare benefits. Yeah, I'm sure a single mother on welfare is living large.
You sound like a Republican. Maybe HC hacked your account.
They're not living large but if you're on welfare it's the only way to get more money out of the welfare system. Yes, there is a lot of abuse built into the system. Free birth control in the form of something which is not optional (like a depro shot for women and a male equivalent if possible) should be mandatory for all welfare recipients. Further more there must, I mean must, be a cap on how much a single person can get no matter how many children they have. Also if you have more kids while on welfare you should get nothing additional since you knew the rules going in.
Of course, I'd also have free abortion on demand because a $200 abortion is less than one month's food stamps much less 18 years of food stamps per child. Let them abort, says I. The accounting is right though mandatory depro would be a better option as it's only like $60 per half year.
Welfare reform. Anyway, grib. This study seems to suggest that the welfare system and how it is structured can influence the childbearing and living decisions of poor women.
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