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Originally posted by HalfLotus View PostThis is a Republic founded in liberty.
The bank can't make me bail it out.
The defense contractor can't make me buy bombs.
The insurance company can't make me buy medicine, or pay its other customers' bills.
Only the government can do those things. Therefore the real force, and the real problem, is government.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by HalfLotus View PostThey're crushing us as we speak, are they not? They're simply doing it indirectly and incrementally with the iron boot of government coercion as their primary tool. And with an army of crooked politicians and bureaucrats running cover them, telling us that the sky will fall if we don't pay their bailouts, buy their healthcare, and bomb oil-rich countries halfway around the world.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostNo, they're not. They're engaging in petty corruption and influence-peddling. If our present government were not there, any sufficiently powerful entity or entities would become the de facto government, with almost totally unchecked power. You and your entire family could be made to disappear for criticizing them, for example, and nobody would even notice.
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Btw I haven't suggested that we have no government, so you can stop arguing against that idea for no reason.
What I'm suggesting is a limited, constitutional government which protects individual LIBERTY. This would of course protect against corporations "making me disappear" (which, btw, the Fed's can legally do now) or any other corporate nightmare lefties enjoy dreaming up.
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I don't know about all your various conspiracy theories, and I'm not going to try to get to the bottom of them. But most of the corruption in our government is, in the grand scheme of things, pretty piddly-ass. You want to see real corruption, look at China.
Anyway, feel free to describe (preferably in specifics) how the government could be improved. All you said was "the government is the problem." From that I assumed, not unreasonably I think, that you wanted no government. Y'know, kind of like if I only say "the cat is the problem," you might reasonably assume I want to get rid of the cat.
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What conspiracy theories? Taxpayer exposure for the bailout programs is in the many trillions (20? 30?). Bernie Sanders also uncovered ~$16 trillion in secret loans to European central banks during that period. The wars are in the many trillions in cost. Theses are all documented and in the open, no conspiracy needed.
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Originally posted by HalfLotus View PostThe majority of Americans opposed the bailouts, oppose the wars, and oppose Obamacare. And the government did it anyway.
Democratic my ass.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by HalfLotus View PostWhat conspiracy theories? Taxpayer exposure for the bailout programs is in the many trillions (20? 30?). Bernie Sanders also uncovered ~$16 trillion in secret loans to European central banks during that period. The wars are in the many trillions in cost. Theses are all documented and in the open, no conspiracy needed.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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