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  • In short ... torture ... no worries ... detention without right to trial ... no worries... but create an amendment to the Constitution that tells the government what to do ... OMG OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

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    • I'm a bit curious - what is the best for a country ? A healthy population or a wealthy health industry ?
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
        Whatever "torture" is happening at Guantanamo bay, what we know is that it's quite mild, it's been very effective at getting information, and it is used on illegal enemy combatants. Again, not something anyone should be worried about.

        "Extraordinary rendition" sends people to other countries. Any torture that happens there is really out of our hands, and again, we don't do it to our citizens unless it's because they've committed a crime in another country, in which case it's called extradition. Not something to be worried about.
        This is a troll, right?
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        "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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        • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
          This is a troll, right?
          Don't think so - reg just have a fantasy of american supremacy when it comes to morality and constitution.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
            Whatever "torture" is happening at Guantanamo bay, what we know is that it's quite mild, it's been very effective at getting information, and it is used on illegal enemy combatants. Again, not something anyone should be worried about.
            Wow..

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            • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              Whatever "torture" is happening at Guantanamo bay, what we know is that it's quite mild, it's been very effective at getting information, and it is used on illegal enemy combatants. Again, not something anyone should be worried about.
              Am I to understand that the desirability of torture depends upon the geographic location of the torturing facility? Could you expand on this please? Please let us know where torture is desirable and where it is not desirable.

              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              "Extraordinary rendition" sends people to other countries. Any torture that happens there is really out of our hands, and again, we don't do it to our citizens unless it's because they've committed a crime in another country, in which case it's called extradition. Not something to be worried about.
              I gather from this that "do it yourself" torture is unacceptable but it is perfectly satisfactory to have somebody else do the torturing on your behalf?

              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              Not something to be worried about.
              If I were being tortured I would be quite worried, regardless of geographic location and nationality of my torturers.

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