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  • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
    Sorry you went 1 step too far. It's amazing but nothing is as good as The Wire.
    the wire buffer dong.
    I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
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    • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
      Actually about half the hispanics in the US self identify themselves as white. The way the US government treats it "Hispanic" is a culture, not a race.

      Hispanics can be white, black, native american, mestizo, mulatto, zambo or even asian. Hispanic is a culture. The term is usually reserved for Latin Americans. White people settled in Latin America, the people of Argentina and Uruguay are almost entirely of European descent. The Spanish and Portugese imported lots of African slaves, in fact the vast majority of the trans-Atlantic slave trade was destined for their colonies. The Spanish caribbean islands particularily have large black populations. Of course there were large number of Native Americans in Latin America also, most accepted the main stream Spanish or Portugese society. The majority of the population of Columbia, Peru, and Boliovia are of Native American ancestory. Then there are the blends -mestizos (white and native american), mulattos (white and black) and zambos (native american and black). According to the government of Mexico the Mexican population is 12% white, 15% native american, 3% black, and 70% mixed, mostly mestizo. Interestingly, though 75% of the Hispanics in the US are of Mexican ancestry, 50% of American hispanics identify themselves as white.

      So, yeah, a hispanic person can be white. In fact overall about 1 out of 3 of them are.
      That's all true. It's also not the point. Hispanics were not commonly (or even uncommonly) labeled as "white hispanics" in the media before this case. The media is working the white racist angle big time.

      Racism sells eyeballs.
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      • The question of Zimmerman's ethnicity is entirely irrelevant because hispanic people can be racist, too. That said, he's as much hispanic as Obama is black, and vice versa.
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        • Re: effectiveness of 911, I found this a few days back:

          DISPATCHER: Good morning.

          SOCIAL WORKER: Hey, I'm on a supervised visitation for a court ordered exhibit and something really weird is happened. The kids went into the house and the parent, biological parent, his name is Josh Powell, will not let me in the door. What should I do?

          911 OPERATOR: What's the address?

          SOCIAL WORKER: 8119 and I think it's 89th -- I don't know what the address is.

          911 OPERATOR: OK, that's pretty important for me to know.

          SOCIAL WORKER: I'm sorry, just a minute. Let me get in my car and see if I can find it. Nothing like this has ever happened before in these visitations, so, I'm really shocked and I can hear one of the kids crying but he still wouldn't let me in. OK, it is one, uh, one ... Oh, just a minute I have it here. You can't find me by GPS?

          911 OPERATOR: No.

          SOCIAL WORKER: OK, it is -- I still can't find it. But I think I need help right away. He's on a very short leash with DSHS, and CPS has been involved. And this is the craziest thing. He looked right at me and closed the door. Are you there?

          911 OPERATOR: Yes ma'am, I'm just waiting to know where you are.

          SOCIAL WORKER: OK. It's 8119 189th St. Court East, Puyallup, 98375. And I'd like to pull out of the driveway because I smell gasoline and he won't let me in.

          911 OPERATOR: You want to pull out of the driveway because you smell gasoline but he won't let you --

          SOCIAL WORKER: He won't let me in.

          911 OPERATOR: He won't let you out of the driveway?

          SOCIAL WORKER: He won't let me in the house.

          911 OPERATOR: Whose house is it?

          SOCIAL WORKER: He's got the kids in the house and he won't let me in. It's a supervised visit.

          911 OPERATOR: I understand. Whose house is it?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Josh Powell.

          911 OPERATOR: OK. You don't live there, right?

          SOCIAL WORKER: No. No. I'm contracted to the state to provide supervised visitation.

          911 OPERATOR: I see. OK. And who is there to exercise the visitation?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I am, uh, and the visit is with Josh Powell. And he's the husband of --

          911 OPERATOR: And who's supervising?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I supervise.

          911 OPERATOR: So you supervise and you're doing the visit? You supervise yourself?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I supervise myself. I'm the supervisor here.

          911 OPERATOR: Wait a minute. If it's a supervised visit you can't supervise yourself if you're the visitor.

          SOCIAL WORKER: I supervise myself. I'm the supervisor for a supervised visit.

          911 OPERATOR: OK, but aren't you the one making the visit? Or is there another parent there that you're supervising?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I'm the one that supervises. I pick up the kids at their grandparents'.

          911 OPERATOR: Yes. And then who visits with the children?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Josh Powell.

          911 OPERATOR: OK. So, you're supposed to be there to supervise Josh Powell's visit with the children?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Yes, that's correct. And he's the husband of missing Susan Powell. This is a high-profile case.

          911 OPERATOR: How did he gain access to the children before you got there?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I was one step in back of them.

          911 OPERATOR: So they went into the house and he locked you out?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Yes. He shut the door right in my face.

          911 OPERATOR: Alright, now it's clear. Your last name? ....

          911 OPERATOR: And what agency are you with?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Foster Care Resources Network. (Pause). And the kids have been in there by now approximately 10 minutes. And he knows this is a supervised visit.

          911 OPERATOR: How many children?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Two, Braden is five and Charlie is seven.

          911 OPERATOR: And the dad's last name?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Powell. P-O-W-E-L-L.

          911 OPERATOR: Two L's? Two L's at the end of Powell?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Yes.

          911 OPERATOR: His first name?

          SOCIAL WORKER: His first name is Josh.

          911 OPERATOR: Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Native?

          SOCIAL WORKER: He's white.

          911 OPERATOR: Date of birth?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I don't know. He's about 39.

          911 OPERATOR: How tall?

          SOCIAL WORKER: 5' 10", 150 pounds.

          911 OPERATOR: Hair color?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Brown.

          911 OPERATOR: Did you notice what he was wearing?

          SOCIAL WORKER: No, I didn't notice what he was wearing.

          911 OPERATOR: Is he alone?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I don't know. I couldn't get into the house.

          911 OPERATOR: Are you in a vehicle now or on foot?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I'm in a vehicle. I'm in a Prius. A 2010 Prius. The door is locked. He hasn't opened the door. I rang the doorbell and everything. I begged him to let me in.

          911 OPERATOR: ... Please listen to my questions. What color is the Toyota Prius?

          SOCIAL WORKER: Gray. Dark gray.

          911 OPERATOR: And the license number?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I don't know I can look ...

          911 OPERATOR: Alright, we'll have somebody look for you there.

          SOCIAL WORKER: OK. How long will it be?

          911 OPERATOR: I don't know ma'am. They have to respond to emergencies, life-threatening situations first. The first available deputy will respond.

          SOCIAL WORKER: This could be life-threatening. He went to court on Wednesday, and he didn't bring his kids back and this is really -- I'm afraid for their lives.

          911 OPERATOR: OK. Has he threatened the lives of the children previously?

          SOCIAL WORKER: I have no idea.

          911 OPERATOR: Alright. Well, we'll have the first available deputy contact you.

          SOCIAL WORKER: Thank you.

          911 OPERATOR: Bye.

          -- The Associated Press


          ...and then the house blew up.
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
            The question of Zimmerman's ethnicity is entirely irrelevant because hispanic people can be racist, too. That said, he's as much hispanic as Obama is black, and vice versa.
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            • Well the family of Trayvon came out and said it... he was suspended from school for weed.
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • That's immaterial... unless Zimmerman had been stalking Martin for weeks and knew the details of his personal and academic life.
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                • That article describes Zimmerman's account of events. He says he broke off and was walking back to his car when Trayvon attacked him.
                  "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                  "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                  • More inconsistencies in the media portrayal. We've been hearing 46 911 calls by Zimmerman since Jan. 2011. Nope. Since 2004!

                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • Those calls do not paint an admirable picture of Mr. Zimmerman. Most of them are "some black people were walking around." One of them is, "My landlord wants me to pay rent."
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                      • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                        Those calls do not paint an admirable picture of Mr. Zimmerman. Most of them are "some black people were walking around." One of them is, "My landlord wants me to pay rent."
                        So 6/46 is most?

                        Only 6 of them involve Black males
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                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                          Well the family of Trayvon came out and said it... he was suspended from school for weed.
                          Anti-drug laws claim another victim.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                            • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              So 6/46 is most?

                              Only 6 of them involve Black males
                              I'm moving into multivariable calculus now. My counting skills have fallen by the wayside.

                              This one is my favorite:

                              Juvenile black male “apprx 7–9” years old, four feet tall “skinny build short blk hair” last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and blue shorts
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                              • This one is my favorite:

                                Juvenile black male “apprx 7–9” years old, four feet tall “skinny build short blk hair” last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and blue shorts
                                Drug dealers starts early, especially if they are member of a gang. That kid could be carrying an uzi under his t-shirt .
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