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  • #16
    The problem with this 'colonial' nonsense is the vast majority of people in the Falklands want to remain under British rule. It's not really colonialism when the people want your overlordship.
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    • #17
      Damn. Albie's support has just completely invalidated the British position.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
        The problem with this 'colonial' nonsense is the vast majority of people in the Falklands want to remain under British rule. It's not really colonialism when the people want your overlordship.
        I was gonna ask how they felt about it...

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        • #19
          Also what is with the sudden support from other Latin American countries towards Argentina? Until recently they all thought Argentina were a bunch up stuck up tw@ts who thought they were better than anyone else and supported the UK in this one, even if it was just a case of international schadenfreude.
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          • #20
            I don't even understand the basis of the Argentinian claim. It's even more spurious than (some) Israelis who claim "God gave the land to us".
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
              The problem with this 'colonial' nonsense is the vast majority of people in the Falklands want to remain under British rule. It's not really colonialism when the people want your overlordship.
              So now you're defending ethnic cleansing?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
                Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                I've never understood why anyone gives a **** what actors/singers/entertainers say about political issues.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
                  Also what is with the sudden support from other Latin American countries towards Argentina? Until recently they all thought Argentina were a bunch up stuck up tw@ts who thought they were better than anyone else and supported the UK in this one, even if it was just a case of international schadenfreude.
                  Nowadays there are no scenarios of war between latin american countries, in the 70s and 80s Argentina feared that Brazil would open the Itaipu Dam and flood half of Argentina, nowadays we are buddies. And now we also have no war scenario with Chile.

                  The issue is that Some south american countries don't want to see the South Atlantic turn into a southern version of the North Sea Oil Fields of the UK, or even of the European Union if the UK somehow stops being seen as a trojan horse of the USA and become European Union friendly and a third equal to Germany and France in the EU, and that would look like colonialism, Falklanders are less than 3 thousand, there are lots of factories and shopping malls with more employees than that, they would seem like an excuse to exploit the wealth of a continent thousands of miles away.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                    I don't even understand the basis of the Argentinian claim. It's even more spurious than (some) Israelis who claim "God gave the land to us".
                    So, I'm not too read up on the Falklands issue, but my understanding is that they were devoid of human habitation entirely until the Europeans showed up and colonized them as a way point between the oceans. And that Argentina never actually had much if any involvement with them until the 1982 invasion, which was essentially a giant wag-the-dog attempt to distract the Argentinians from how much the military Junta sucked at running the country.

                    If all that's true, I can't see much value in Argentina's claim, either.
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                    • #25
                      They were inhabited for the first time in the XVIII century by France, basically, France and England made small short lived settlements there in the XVIII century. When Spain noticed the British settlement they almost go to War (Spain and France were allied because both had Bourbon kings), the British do two things, they leave the Islands, but leave a plaque saying it belongs to the UK, but then they also agree in a deal that they belong to Spain.
                      They remained without a population, until Argentina becomes an independent country in the early XIX century. Argentina sends some people to colonize the Islands, who were never more than a dew dozens. Argentina captures some American ships who were fishing illegally, (the Americans did not recognize the Islands to have any owner), American warship laters founds out of the situation and destroys the settlement.
                      It remains empty a few years more, and we send another group to colonize the islands. But shortly after the British arrive and expulse the small population. From that moment on Argentina has been complaining at least once a year diplomatically for the "supposed" occupation. With the exception of 1982 when the Dictatorship invaded the Islands.
                      We were rather close to "getting back" the Islands diplomatically in the late 60s early 70s.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Barnabas View Post
                        We were rather close to "getting back" the Islands diplomatically in the late 60s early 70s.
                        the only reason this didn't happen was because of the bitter opposition from the islanders.
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                        • #27
                          Why should the views of the British interlopers currently inhabiting the Malvinas matter any more than those of the Argentine population Britain was happy to expel by force in 1833?

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                          • #28
                            typical colonalist attitude from you drake. igoring the wishes of the people living there in favour of some dubious historical claim.
                            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
                              Why should the views of the British interlopers currently inhabiting the Malvinas matter any more than those of the Argentine population Britain was happy to expel by force in 1833?
                              Because if you're going to assert that the Brits were being dickish in 1833, then doing the same thing to the current British inhabitants is just as dickish...
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                              • #30
                                And Boris bites the trollbait...
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