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    Republicans vow to protect high school dropouts from Barack Obama
    By Chris Moody | The Ticket – 7 hrs ago
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    President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address Tuesday. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)
    WASHINGTON -- High school dropouts, do not fear. The Republican Party will protect you from Barack Obama's efforts to keep you at your desk.
    At his third State of the Union Address Tuesday night, the president challenged all states to ban children from dropping out of high school before they turn 18. "Tonight," Obama bellowed, "I am proposing that every state--every state--requires that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn 18."
    Obama wasn't proposing a new federal program, but his use of the bully pulpit to tell local jurisdictions how to run their school districts was enough to make some Republicans, already sensitive to the increasing role of the federal government in education over the past few years, bristle.
    "That's none of his business!" said Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee while speaking to reporters after the speech. "He's not a principal! He's not a public school teacher! He's not a governor, he's not a mayor. These are matters for state and local government."
    Standing in Statuary Hall outside the House chamber, Lee, a senator whose rise to prominence was propelled by the tea party, went on to say that there was plenty in Obama's speech that made him want to scream, but he held his tongue.
    "I did not want to be Joe Wilson!" Lee said. Meanwhile, Joe Wilson, who shouted "You Lie!" during a presidential address in 2009, was standing directly behind him, about three feet away.
    Regulations on school attendance varies from state to state. Twenty states currently meet Obama's standards by restricting students from dropping out before they turn 18-years-old. Some states allow students to drop out at 16 with parental permission and others require an agreement from the school to let them go. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, 8.1 percent of students nationwide dropped out of high school in 2009.
    Other Republicans in the crowded hall, fed up with Obama's calls for a more intrusive federal system, lambasted the president for even making the suggestion.
    "What are you gonna do, give them the electric chair?" asked Arizona Republican Trent Franks. "It should be handled on the parental level."
    Phil Gingrey, a Republican from Georgia, agreed, saying students should have the right to leave if they want to.
    "To require them to stay in high school to age 18, those who have absolutely no intention of getting an education or value an education are disrupting the other kids in class. I think it's just a government misguided run amok quote honestly," Gingrey said.
    There was, however, one Republican willing to stand up for Obama's call: High school dropout Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight Committee.
    Issa, who left high school when he was 17-years-old to join the Army, took Obama's call to mean that the federal government should look into ways to encourage states to raise their age limits on dropping out, and he's fully behind it.
    "I agree with him," Issa said. "The truth is that maintaining students from dropping out until they're 18, and every possible inducement, rather than getting rid of them at the first possible moment because they become a 'pest,' because perhaps they're not performing well. That could make a real difference in the level of education people get. Do I promote it? Yes."
    "Leave no child behind?" he said. "That has a familiar ring to me as a Republican."
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  • #2
    I don't see what's so bad about letting a 17-year-old leave high school. If you don't want them making their own decisions because you still consider them a child, there's still the option of requiring parental permission to drop out.

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    • #3
      I think giving them the electric chair is the appropriate response.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.â€
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #4
        I left at 16. Down with obama.
        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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        • #5
          There's no reason to demand that every student pass high school. That would actually be counterproductive.
          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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          • #6
            And to be clear, they're protecting school districts, municipalities and states from Barack Obama, not primarily dropouts.
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              There's no reason to demand that every student pass high school. That would actually be counterproductive.
              How so?
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.â€
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                There's no reason to demand that every student pass high school.
                There is in a democracy.
                "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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                • #9
                  This reminds me of what happened in 2009 when President Obama wanted to make a brief 5 minute speech broadcast to students in the nation's schools urging young people not to drop out and instead to stay in school. Every President since Eisenhower has done this yet according to the Republicans "DUR! THE SECRET FOREIGNER PROTENDING TO BE PRESIDENT IS PROGANDIZING TO STUDENTS!" Fox and talk radio urged parents to pull their kids out of school or call in sick in order to "protect them" from Obama's propaganda messages about not dropping out of high school.

                  These people are just nuts.
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                  • #10
                    Some people don't need to finish high school. Some jobs simply don't require a high school education. Besides, you'd have to cheapen the degree to actually get everyone to pass and get a diploma. Since not everyone CAN pass high school in its current form, you simply make it worse for the vast majority of people by trying to get everyone a diploma.

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                    • #11
                      High school in America is incredibly easy compared to countries that mandate schooling until 12-13 years of schooling. A problem with the American education system is that their is no respect and appreciation for public education (and education in general). Mandating high school is one small, and albeit blunt, step to changing that opinion. But a lot more reform is still necessary so that those additional years are not simply a waste of time.

                      There is also a racial component, but it is more correlated with poverty and frankly so obvious that it needs no further mention.
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.â€
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                        High school in America is incredibly easy compared to countries that mandate schooling until 12-13 years of schooling. A problem with the American education system is that their is no respect and appreciation for public education (and education in general). Mandating high school is one small, and albeit blunt, step to changing that opinion. But a lot more reform is still necessary so that those additional years are not simply a waste of time.
                        That opinion is changed by convincing others of its truth, not by enforcing dictates from above. Did introducing compulsory primary schooling instil proper respect for education? Respect for teachers and education is important but compulsion will not make better students of those who are not academically minded. It will simply waste their time and the taxpayer's money. Such students can succeed in any number of skilled or unskilled work that does not require a high school diploma. This plan simply won't succeed. It will put a lot of people in school but school isn't the best place for every person.
                        Last edited by Zevico; January 26, 2012, 03:53.
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                        • #13
                          This evening I overheard a grown person ask a friend if M comes before or after L.

                          There are people for whom school is a waste of time and resources.
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                          • #14
                            Those people will end up dropping out no matter how many times the President urges them to stay in school. There are a lot of other people where it could go either way though so a helpful nudge in the right direction could save a whole lot of future welfare payments.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              If someone wants to drop out they aren't going to gain anything from being in school anyways. It's a waste of resources to keep them in class. It's an even bigger waste of resources to police it if they don't go to class.

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