God hates Jesus?

[dannubis]

Likely the time honored practice and portraying the historical Jesus in your own culture . Romans weren't keen on beards - they thought them slovenly. Jews were all for beards and as Jesus was referred to as a rabbi on more than one occasion, he was obviously a "Jewish priest".

Obviously ?

Memory might fail me but i don't recall ever having read about Jesus being a farizee.

[The Mad Monk]

You're thinking Sadusee.

Pharisees were the teachers.

[dannubis]

In the Dutch translation of the Bible they talk about "Farizeeërs".

I am learning.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well Jesus harrangues against the Pharisees. However, Rabbi is the term for Jewish priest and that was the term applied to Jesus in the Gospels by his followers (it is translated as "teacher" or "master" in a lot of English translations).

[The Mad Monk]

I think any rabbi you talk to will correct you on that. Priests in Judaism have very specific requirements that haven't been fulfilled since the destruction of the Second Temple.

http://www.jewfaq.org/rabbi.htm

[Uncle Sparky]

Holy ****socks guys. Rabbi means learned - someone who has learned Jewish traditions and laws. You don't have to be a priest to be Rabbin. Why don't Christians take the time to learn the words you use??? Very specific words were used for specific purposes, then inspired *******s changed them over the centuries to make things 'easier to understand' and the meaning was lost. What has been happening in the USA is particularly egregious. No wonder Christian Americans are asshats.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think any rabbi you talk to will correct you on that. Priests in Judaism have very specific requirements that haven't been fulfilled since the destruction of the Second Temple.

http://www.jewfaq.org/rabbi.htm

Remember, the Gospels were ALL written after the destruction of the Second Temple (70 AD).

[The Mad Monk]

Now you're just being silly.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well that is true.

Perhaps I am wrong on this, but I don't see how even if He's a mere teacher He wouldn't have followed the Torah on beard growing.

[Berzerker]

Remember, the Gospels were ALL written after the destruction of the Second Temple (70 AD).

Why is that? I think thats an interesting problem. I get the impression his followers believed he would return in their lifetimes and when he didn't, they started writing down stuff and making later copies. The Temple and the failed rebellion convinced them to save the teachings for posterity since he may not be coming back during their generation.

[Elok]

You're thinking Sadusee.

Pharisees were the teachers.

IIRC the Pharisees and Sadducees were simply two rival sects of teachers. The Pharisees were relatively conventional, at least from our POV, while the Sadducees didn't believe in certain things like the existence of angels or the afterlife. But I could be getting it wrong.

[giblets]

Conflicts between the Pharisees and the Sadducees took place in the context of much broader and longstanding social and religious conflicts among Jews dating back to the Babylonian captivity and exacerbated by the Roman conquest. One conflict was class, between the wealthy and the poor, as the Sadducees included mainly the priestly and aristocratic families.[4] Another conflict was cultural, between those who favored Hellenization and those who resisted it. A third was juridico-religious, between those who emphasized the importance of the Second Temple, and those who emphasized the importance of other Mosaic laws and prophetic values. A fourth, specifically religious, involved different interpretations of the Torah and how to apply it to current Jewish life, with the Sadducees recognizing only the Written Torah and rejecting doctrines such as the Oral Torah and the Resurrection of the Dead. Josephus (37 – c. A.D. 100), himself a Pharisee, claimed that the Pharisees received the backing and goodwill of the common people, apparently in contrast to the more elite Sadducees. Pharisees claimed prophetic or Mosaic authority for their interpretation[5] of Jewish laws, while the Sadducees represented the authority of the priestly privileges and prerogatives established since the days of Solomon, when Zadok, their ancestor, officiated as High Priest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees

The Pharisees sound more like Jesus.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I believe some scholars have speculated that Jesus was a Pharisee and when he was having a go at them, he was going after his own order - hence why he could seemingly be a bit more savage with them (ie, only Jews can tell Jewish jokes and whatnot).

[Boris Godunov]

???

Early depictions of christ are always beardless.

I was under the impression that beards were only worn by people that held a position of power (the Jewish priests e.g.).

I'm not sure where you get that impression, but I don't believe it's true. Leviticus explicitly forbids cutting the beard for all men, not just powerful ones.

[Kidlicious]

Why is that? I think thats an interesting problem. I get the impression his followers believed he would return in their lifetimes and when he didn't, they started writing down stuff and making later copies. The Temple and the failed rebellion convinced them to save the teachings for posterity since he may not be coming back during their generation.

A lot of the first christians believed that Jesus would return before all the disciples had died. The disciples didn't really understand everything until after christ was crucified. They understood more from the Holy Spirit than from Christ while He was alive. That's how they created the church.