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  • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    I think you're assuming that by "the rich" he meant the top 10%, which I find unlikely.
    Not to mention his claim that the rich pay most of all taxes is complete and utter bull****. Around 50% of total gross Federal income comes from pay roll taxes (or did until they temperamentally reduced the pay roll tax rate) while income taxes make up only around the high 30's. Yet Republicans always only talk about income taxes and pretend that's the only tax or the biggest tax when in fact it isn't, not by a long shot. I'm not surprised DinoDoc is stupid enough to fall for it though.
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    • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
      Not to mention his claim that the rich pay most of all taxes is complete and utter bull****. Around 50% of total gross Federal income comes from pay roll taxes (or did until they temperamentally reduced the pay roll tax rate) while income taxes make up only around the high 30's. Yet Republicans always only talk about income taxes and pretend that's the only tax or the biggest tax when in fact it isn't, not by a long shot. I'm not surprised DinoDoc is stupid enough to fall for it though.
      This would have been a much better post if you hadn't included incorrect percentages.

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      • I'd like to know the source of the data concerning campaign contributions in the vdeo HalfLotus posted, however one possible reason his support my be high amongst people in the military is because they want to come home, and don't want to be sent somewhere new (Iran).
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        • I'm sure it was changed since they temperamentally reduced payroll taxes by 1/3rd but it was true and eventually will be true again.
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          • It's pretty easy to find out who pays what in taxes, just go to the IRS webpage.
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            • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
              What percentage of a person's wealth do you consider a decent amount for the government to take off the top? And why.
              I wouldn't think that, say, 50% of monies above the top bracket is too much for the group that most benefits from societal investments in infrastructure or education.
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              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                I wouldn't think that, say, 50% of monies above the top bracket is too much for the group that most benefits from societal investments in infrastructure or education.
                And you base this number on .... ?
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                • What are you looking for at this point, DD? An equation? Papal mandate?

                  You asked for people's opinions. You got an opinion in response?
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                  • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                    I'd like to know the source of the data concerning campaign contributions in the vdeo HalfLotus posted, however one possible reason his support my be high amongst people in the military is because they want to come home, and don't want to be sent somewhere new (Iran).
                    The source is in the video.

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                    • There's the original source. It's all self described, so some people will say "Army" and some will say "US Army," but that's the raw data.
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                      • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                        What are you looking for at this point, DD?
                        I asked for why someone arrived the number they did as well, Bugs. Simply repeating notions of "fairness" as backing is so much pap.
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                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • Obviously if you can't calculate the optimum tax rates to three decimal places then your opinion on wanting the rich to pay a somewhat higher rate is merely pap

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                          • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                            I asked for why someone arrived the number they did as well, Bugs. Simply repeating notions of "fairness" as backing is so much pap.

                            I think you really need to define what you yourself are looking for at this point. What are the exact parameters you are using to define whether a taxation level is acceptable or not?
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                            • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                              I think you really need to define what you yourself are looking for at this point. What are the exact parameters you are using to define whether a taxation level is acceptable or not?
                              I'm trying to get people to justify economically whatever tax policy they seek to impose or at least move slightly beyond the moralistic drivel of simply saying whatever tax level a person in a higher tax bracket is paying simply isn't "fair" because without some basis backing it up claims of fairness are without meaning.
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                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • By having no stance yourself.
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