I know how to solve the problems of the US&A.

[Pax]

no drawbacks except that Americans of 21st century feel like Native Americans of 19th century in the face of unrestricted immigrations... they fear that they might end up being put into concentration camps and removed from their land to make place for the immigrants, new diseases may come to wipe them out like what happened to their predecessors and who knows what else...

I'm not for open immigration at this time. I think that we have not figured out how to employ the americans already here. When Our employment rate goes up then we should think about open immigration.

[VetLegion]

Go back to your unrestricted immigration policy. Let anyone settle in the US just like in the 19th century, just don't let them claim any welfare benefits or apply for other social programs.
1. This solves the problem of illegal immigration by definition.
2. This lets you bring manufacturing back from Asia, improving your trade balance and economy.
3. This improves your reputation all over the world.

Any drawbacks?

Are you being serious? US should shape their immigration policy
with regard to what the world will think?

[Dinner]

I'm not for open immigration at this time. I think that we have not figured out how to employ the americans already here. When Our employment rate goes up then we should think about open immigration.

I'm totally for open immigration of college grads and especially for people with advanced degrees as they tend to pay for themselves in the long run. We don't need more uneducated peasants though; I can agree with that.

[Kuciwalker]

I'm not for open immigration at this time. I think that we have not figured out how to employ the americans already here. When Our employment rate goes up then we should think about open immigration.

You're both an idiot and a bad human being.

[Hauldren Collider]

I'm totally for open immigration of college grads and especially for people with advanced degrees as they tend to pay for themselves in the long run. We don't need more uneducated peasants though; I can agree with that.

Actually, we need them more than we need more smart people. As the exodus from Georgia following their immigration law has demonstrated, what we lack is hardworking unskilled people.

[Dinner]

You're both an idiot and a bad human being.

I don't think PAX is remotely a bad person though I do disagree with his stated policy choice. Still, I can understand where he is coming from even if I disagree. There is certainly a feeling in the country that "we don't have enough jobs for all the people already here so let's not bring in more people" which is emotionally based and ignores that bringing in more people who have money or education usually revs up the economy (they create jobs or at least fill high value added niches which produce more and thus also help the economy). I do think he's right about low skill jobs though. There are tons of barely educated Americans who would see their earnings decline if a large number of similarly no skill or low skilled workers started competing with them.

Yes, I agree even then the increase in the labor supply would eventually result in more jobs for low skilled people but it can take years, even decades, for that equilibrium point to be reached and that would cause great personal hard ship for the low skilled American citizens. The better solution is to give free education (the way most of the rest of the 1st world does) so those low skilled people can move up the economic ladder and then bring in more low skilled workers.

[Felch]

There's no benefit to over-educating people. As important as scientists and engineers are, the economy needs low skilled people to do the grunt work. If you choke off the supply of laborers, then you're going to have higher labor costs, and those higher labor costs will result in a less competitive economy.

[Elok]

There's something seriously wrong with us if our high school graduates seriously can't compete with totally untrained foreigners who speak and read negligible English. Or if the only jobs available can be done by people at that skill level.

[Dinner]

There's no benefit to over-educating people.

Yes there is. Less educated people won't recognize opportunities like educated people will plus most of the large opportunities seem to be at the upper end of the scale education wise so it's more likely educated people, who understand the situation, will be able to capitalize on the subject (unless you think a high school drop out could create Google or Boeing). If you create more people who understand the situation then you create more people who can take advantage of the situation thus improving growth. This is what they mean by looking at human development indexes. Each person has a maximum personal development they can reach so the more people who reach their maximum development the more you will have people who are using all of their talents. Yes, more people of this type means more economic growth, more job creation, and more wealth.

[Felch]

So the only thing keeping Kidicious from being the next Thomas Edison is a few grad school courses?

[Dinner]

There's something seriously wrong with us if our high school graduates seriously can't compete with totally untrained foreigners who speak and read negligible English. Or if the only jobs available can be done by people at that skill level.

I agree but there is more to it than that. For instance, let's say I'm a welder or a framer or a dry waller. My ability to speak English is unimportant as long as I speak the same language as my manager. I just need to know where to hammer nails and when to hammer them (or similar). Many "high school graduates" are no more qualified than that. In fact, people will pay extra for an experienced dry waller or framer but they won't pay extra for an experienced clerk working at 7-11. So, yes, bringing in lots of low skill, unskilled people does indeed depress the incomes of native born unskilled, low skilled people. The solution is to make them all more skilled so they can earn better wages but Repulicans hate that mostly because they're horrible people and are fearful a negro or a Mexican might thus get a helping hand.

[Felch]

How highly skilled do you need to be to work at 7-11?

[Aeson]

It would help if you could dodge bullets... that's pretty skilled.

[Felch]

Each of these bullet wounds is a badge of honor.

[Aeson]

Being able to take a bullet is another qualification, yes!