Clement Attlee was not a good Prime Minister. Discuss.

[Hauldren Collider]

And the rest of it was mainly done by the British! And Andrew Jackson.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Our guns just randomly went off while pointed at those natives!! Not our fault

[giblets]

Indian reservations are nothing like concentration camps. Never were. Not that they were all that great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_removal#Internment_camps

The deaths and desertions in the Army's boat detachments caused Gen Scott to suspend the Army's Removal efforts, and the remaining Cherokees were put into eleven internment camps, mostly located near Ross' Landing (now Chattanooga, TN) and at Red Clay, Bedwell Springs, Chatata, Mouse Creek, Rattlesnake Springs, Chestooe, and Calhoun (site of the former Cherokee Agency) located within Bradley County, TN and one camp (Fort Payne) in Alabama.
Cherokees remained in the camps during the summer of 1838 and were plagued by dysentery and other illnesses, which led to 353 deaths. A group of Cherokees petitioned General Scott for a delay until cooler weather made the journey less hazardous. This was granted; meanwhile Chief Ross, finally accepting defeat, managed to have the remainder of the removal turned over to the supervision of the Cherokee Council. Although there were some objections within the U.S. government because of the additional cost, General Scott awarded a contract for removing the remaining 11,000 Cherokees under the supervision of Principal Chief Ross, with expenses to be paid by the Army.

I hope you know what "internment camp" means.

[MikeH]

Indian reservations are nothing like concentration camps. Never were. Not that they were all that great.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

They were used in the Philippine-American war too, pretty much simultaneously with the Boer War. I did some reading on that for a prospective article some years back, but it got too depressing.

[Tupac Shakur]

Was it the camps that depressed you, or the ass-kicking delivered to the British Army by Dutch farmers that made the camps a necessity?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

To the best of my knowledge, there weren't many Dutch farmers in the Philippines at the time. They weren't mentioned in the books I read, anyway.

[Tupac Shakur]

I took your previous post to mean that you had been reading about the Philippine insurgency and the Boer War and were depressed by the means by which both were fought. My bad; I should have known that a good Englishman would never be depressed by the conduct of wars fought for the glory of the Empire.

[Dinner]

They were used in the Philippine-American war too, pretty much simultaneously with the Boer War. I did some reading on that for a prospective article some years back, but it got too depressing.

Here's the really ironic part. Part of the justification for the Spanish-American war was that Spain was putting Cuban nationalists, as well as ordinary people who simply lived in areas where the nationalists were operating, into concentration camps where loads of them kicked the bucket. So a large part of our justification for going to war was to stop concentration camps... Yet we ended up building loads of concentration camps a year or two later during the Philippine Insurrection.

[Tupac Shakur]

I'm feeling too lazy to Google what's wrong in that post. Anyone want to help?

[Dauphin]

I'm feeling too lazy to Google what's wrong in that post. Anyone want to help?

molly can. He's an expert.

[Tupac Shakur]

It would be an honor to see the work of such a professional.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Pfft. Pure snobbery.

[molly bloom]

Read the ****ing thread.

I have read the ****ing thread, thank you.

And your ****ing posts too, as lacking in any ****ing substance as they were.

Let me know when you get to a ****ing point, or post a ****ing fact, rather than a ****ing opinion.



Have a ****ing nice day !

[molly bloom]

http://www.jstor.org/stable/1894674?seq=2

As scholars have long been aware, the American military was deeply concerned about the power of Soviet conventional forces in the 1945-1950 period.

From 1945 on, the realization that the United States was unprepared to counter soviet conventional forces shaped military strategy.

Basically the article points out that US forces were the only thing stopping the Soviets from rolling in, but because of our demobilization, if we hadn't had nukes, they might have tried it anyway.

I know of someone who disagreed.

I don't believe the Reds want a war. What can they gain now by armed conflict ? They've gained just about all they can assimilate.

That was a nobody called Eisenhower.