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    So I've been hearing a lot lately about some scandal involving Joe Paterno, football coach for Penn State. I finally look it up today, it turns out he's in trouble for just reporting an assistant coach who was caught violating a ten-year-old boy, instead of sacking him.

    My first reaction, once I understood the allegations, was: "So, will Penn State Creamery be renaming their 'Peachy Paterno' ice cream flavor?" My second was to scroll down and see if Wiki categorized Paterno under "American Roman Catholics" (it did). My third was to think, "Seriously? I read about little kids getting bum-raped and I'm immediately curious about ice cream?"

    On further reflection, however, this is a natural reaction, because having heard about pederasty scandals at an average rate of one per year since I was about twelve, the idea no longer has any power to shock me. Stalin would say, "a million horribly violated children are a statistic." Evil just becomes generic, passe, BOOOO-RING.

    Another example: there's an image circulating around Facebook, with a shot of two dudes about to kiss on the left, some obviously starving African children on the right, and at the bottom a snarky text that says "if the picture on the left shocks you more than the picture on the right, your sense of morality needs fixing. End homophobia on Facebook." I looked at it and thought, "Wait, there was a picture on the right?" Yes, yes there was! Little kids whose ribs stuck out like flagpoles. Now, the picture on the left was much brighter and thus more eye-catching, but I can't say the picture on the right shocked me at all. Because I've seen pictures like that on TV, in books and magazines, and on street ads at least a hundred times. And so I suspect my brain has simply taught itself to ignore images like that as extraneous background noise.

    Does anyone else catch himself thinking like that?
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        I have similar reactions to such things. I don't think it's a bad thing. My belief is that if I no longer have visceral reactions to supposedly shocking stimuli, I can actually think about them in a possibly more logical way.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Elok View Post
          Another example: there's an image circulating around Facebook, with a shot of two dudes about to kiss on the left, some obviously starving African children on the right, and at the bottom a snarky text that says "if the picture on the left shocks you more than the picture on the right, your sense of morality needs fixing. End homophobia on Facebook."
          What an incredibly ironic picture. "Forget about feeding starving Africans, our top priority is ending homophobia on Facebook!!!"
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            Originally posted by loinburger View Post
            What an incredibly ironic picture. "Forget about feeding starving Africans, our top priority is ending homophobia on Facebook!!!"
            This is a very good point.

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              I hadn't thought of it that way (obviously). I suppose the makers of that picture, like myself, tend to think of starving people in far-off countries as the ordinary state of things. Unfortunate, like graffitti, but whaddayagonnado?
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              • #8
                I generally make 80% or more of my charitable donations to local charities and the rest to the International Red Cross, because with the local charities I can actually see tangible evidence of their helping people whereas the IRC seems more like a good organization trying to solve an intractable problem. Also, give a thousand bucks to a soup kitchen, and you know that you're buying a day's supply of food (or whatever); give a thousand bucks to the International Red Cross and it disappears into a black hole.

                I guess this is similar to the "stop homophobia on Facebook" people - they can presumably see tangible evidence that they're doing good (or not), whereas with a "feed Africa" campaign they'd be saying "here's a picture of a starving African child who is probably dead by this point, please donate money that hopefully won't be used by local warlords to buy guns and commit genital mutilation."
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                  Originally posted by loinburger View Post
                  What an incredibly ironic picture. "Forget about feeding starving Africans, our top priority is ending homophobia on Facebook!!!"
                  There's nothing like a sense of proportion. But really, what's another dead foreign child in a far off dusty land compared with some slack jawed prognathous missing link telling me something I already knew ?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                    I have similar reactions to such things. I don't think it's a bad thing. My belief is that if I no longer have visceral reactions to supposedly shocking stimuli, I can actually think about them in a possibly more logical way.
                    Maybe. Of course, whether I shrug and accept evil or throw up my hands in impotent horror, I'm not part of the solution.

                    One exception to this pattern, which I forgot to mention, was those ads you see in magazines asking for money so kids with cleft palates can get surgery to fix it. Naturally, they advertise with pics of the kids in question. The main effect these ads have had on me, AFAICT, is that any article placed opposite such an ad in the magazine will not get read. Unless it's very interesting or the continuation of an article I'd already started reading. Then I'll read it in great haste, furiously ignoring the exposed gums and split lips on the opposite page.

                    It honestly never occurs to me to donate money to these organizations so they can fix the problem. I actually feel antagonized by those ads.

                    Okay, maybe that's just me being an *******. Please validate my irrational anger by saying you do it too!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by loinburger View Post
                      I guess this is similar to the "stop homophobia on Facebook" people - they can presumably see tangible evidence that they're doing good (or not), whereas with a "feed Africa" campaign they'd be saying "here's a picture of a starving African child who is probably dead by this point, please donate money that hopefully won't be used by local warlords to buy guns and commit genital mutilation."
                      The youth group at my church raised money to buy some animals via Heifer International a few years ago (apparently they were inspired by some damn Veggietales video about water buffalo). I don't know what long-term impact buying some villagers a beast of burden will do, but at least I'm pretty confident that the animal is actually bought and delivered. That's something. I suppose they could just stuff the animal's colon with condoms full of smack and ride it across the border, but the point is, they got a buffalo, they can make money with it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Elok View Post
                        Maybe. Of course, whether I shrug and accept evil or throw up my hands in impotent horror, I'm not part of the solution.

                        One exception to this pattern, which I forgot to mention, was those ads you see in magazines asking for money so kids with cleft palates can get surgery to fix it. Naturally, they advertise with pics of the kids in question. The main effect these ads have had on me, AFAICT, is that any article placed opposite such an ad in the magazine will not get read. Unless it's very interesting or the continuation of an article I'd already started reading. Then I'll read it in great haste, furiously ignoring the exposed gums and split lips on the opposite page.

                        It honestly never occurs to me to donate money to these organizations so they can fix the problem. I actually feel antagonized by those ads.

                        Okay, maybe that's just me being an *******. Please validate my irrational anger by saying you do it too!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by loinburger View Post
                          What an incredibly ironic picture. "Forget about feeding starving Africans, our top priority is ending homophobia on Facebook!!!"
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                          • #14
                            This scandal has put things into perspective for me. People that work on Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, banks, etc... they are worse than child molesters. But... slightly better than Nazis.

                            from worst to less worse:

                            Hitler - Wall Street/Goldman Sachs - child molesters

                            and they should all be shot, of course
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Elok View Post
                              The youth group at my church raised money to buy some animals via Heifer International a few years ago (apparently they were inspired by some damn Veggietales video about water buffalo). I don't know what long-term impact buying some villagers a beast of burden will do, but at least I'm pretty confident that the animal is actually bought and delivered. That's something. I suppose they could just stuff the animal's colon with condoms full of smack and ride it across the border, but the point is, they got a buffalo, they can make money with it.
                              I may be a bad person for this (I am a sinner ), but whenever I hear of Heifer International, regardless of the good they do indeed do, I think of a really fat woman.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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