Libya Islamic State, Sharia to be Instituted

[Heraclitus]

I think he wants us to vaccinate ourselves against democracy.

Best suggestion I've heard in ages

[Elok]

Tunisia's now expected to have heavy representation from their moderate Muslim party, Ennahda, but not a majority.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15453579

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Curious to find out what does post-revolution "moderate" really mean.

[Zevico]

Is democracy democratic if opponents of democracy are not allowed to run for office?

On a related note, the Americans funded a anti-communists in Europe after WWII. Interfering in other countries' domestic politics.

[Traianvs]

Shariah law in Libya will be moderate, officials say linky

moderate... heh, compared to what, hand cutting, and stoning of Saudi Arabia, or ban for all women to have education in Taliban controlled Afghanistan

"I would like to assure the international community that we as Libyans are Muslims but moderate Muslims," interim leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil said on Monday.

Jalil's comments came a day after he said Shariah law would be the "basic source" of legislation in the country and that laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified. Jalil talked about immediate changes to laws — specifically amending regulations concerning marriage, banking and housing loans, banishing massive interest rates — to conform to Shariah customs.

In post Gadaffi Libya, Bachmann would be an ultra-liberal

Islamic banking is an interesting idea. Speculating on debt is outlawed it seems. Sounds like they hold a few keys to the restraint that we needed in the past few decades or so

Whether you call it Sharia or 'All-American family values', I think it's all just the same: fear of homosexuality, divorce and all the forces in society that are perceived to destroy 'our lives'.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

whavetever we in Europe think about American family values... it is not this... a pretty common set of rules for marriage under Sharia

The man who is not currently a fornicator may marry only a woman who is not currently a fornicatress or a chaste woman from the people of the Book (jews, christians, and muslims).
The woman who is not currently a fornicatress may marry only a man who is not currently a fornicator.
The fornicator may marry only a fornicatress.
The Muslim woman may marry only a Muslim man.
Permission for a virgin female to marry must be given by her guardian, usually her father.
Any Muslim woman may demand her guardian marry her to a Muslim male, provided he is suitable. If the guardian refuses, a judge will effect the marriage.[94]
The father, or in some cases the paternal grandfather, may choose a suitable partner for a virgin girl.[95]
The guardian may not marry the divorced woman or the widow if she did not ask to be married.
Without the permission of the girl an Islamic marriage is considered invalid.
It is obligatory for a man to give bride wealth (gifts) to the woman he marries – "Do not marry unless you give your wife something that is her right."[96]

so what do we have here... restriction based on religion, based on being a virgin or not, all that stays from women's rights is the permission of the girl and that they get gifts , + polygamy is allowed... for those considering polygamy Libya has just become a better place to move to, as this was banned under Gadaffi. Freedom, Democracy & lots of wives

[dannubis]

... and oil !

NEVER forget the oil.

[Traianvs]

whavetever we in Europe think about American family values... it is not this... a pretty common set of rules for marriage under Sharia

The man who is not currently a fornicator may marry only a woman who is not currently a fornicatress or a chaste woman from the people of the Book (jews, christians, and muslims).
The woman who is not currently a fornicatress may marry only a man who is not currently a fornicator.
The fornicator may marry only a fornicatress.
The Muslim woman may marry only a Muslim man.
Permission for a virgin female to marry must be given by her guardian, usually her father.
Any Muslim woman may demand her guardian marry her to a Muslim male, provided he is suitable. If the guardian refuses, a judge will effect the marriage.[94]
The father, or in some cases the paternal grandfather, may choose a suitable partner for a virgin girl.[95]
The guardian may not marry the divorced woman or the widow if she did not ask to be married.
Without the permission of the girl an Islamic marriage is considered invalid.
It is obligatory for a man to give bride wealth (gifts) to the woman he marries – "Do not marry unless you give your wife something that is her right."[96]

so what do we have here... restriction based on religion, based on being a virgin or not, all that stays from women's rights is the permission of the girl and that they get gifts , + polygamy is allowed... for those considering polygamy Libya has just become a better place to move to, as this was banned under Gadaffi. Freedom, Democracy & lots of wives

Apart from polygamy, I don't see the difference with conservative Christian values in the US.

[Lorizael]

I've never seen the term fornicatress before. Pretty awesome word.

[rah]

While it may seem that any code of law based under Sharia might seem extreme, it might not necessarily be the case.
You could argue that a lot of US laws are based on Christian principles. Then you could pull out extreme examples from the bible to make the whole concept seem extreme.
We'll see what actually happens later.

[Sava]

In post Gadaffi Libya, Bachmann would be an ultra-liberal

not if they plan on banishing massive interest rates
well, i'm assuming the rates regular people are victim to... anyways