Isaac Asimov's Foundation: A Roland Emmerich Film

[Guynemer]

Well played, Elok.

[Hauldren Collider]

...how long ago did you last see it? It's most interesting for its insight into Hollywood's view of the world: Jews think of all the solutions, Black people do all the work, Mexicans are there to be sacrificed and a generic-looking White is there to take credit for everything at the end.

EDIT: And yeah, I know, that was Bill Pullman, AKA Lone Starr. But he was playing Generic White Guy.

Look, it was ****ing awesome. Shut up.

[Elok]

Thank you, thank you. But seriously, when was the last time you saw it, HC? It's fun in a vapid way, but it came out around the time you were 4 or so, right? I was about 15 when I saw it and recall thinking, even then, "what the hell are those little fighter jets going to do to that big old spaceship? Are they packing some kind of Pocket Nukes?"

[Hauldren Collider]

I've seen it several times, actually, most recently was about a year ago. And yes, it is vapid, but it's fun.

Oh, and pocket nukes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Cr...lear_device%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-62_Walleye

[Docfeelgood]

Let's be clear here, though--Independence Day was ****in' awesome.

[Darius871]

...how long ago did you last see it? It's most interesting for its insight into Hollywood's view of the world: Jews think of all the solutions, Black people do all the work, Mexicans are there to be sacrificed and a generic-looking White is there to take credit for everything at the end.

EDIT: And yeah, I know, that was Bill Pullman, AKA Lone Starr. But he was playing Generic White Guy.

Wait a minute... when did Mexicans get sacrificed in that one?

[Elok]

They had Randy Quaid play one to avoid hiring an actual Mexican, since Mexicans are scary, I guess. To be fair, I might be misremembering and he and his trailer full of Latino kids were actually supposed to be Puerto Rican or something. But, yeah, all the planes run out of missiles and they're all hovering around going "oh, crap, now what?" when Mexi-Quaid zooms up and takes one for the team by flying right into the alien ship's Blue Energy Death Orifice.

[Elok]

Other Emmerich productions: The Day After Tomorrow and the lousy nineties Godzilla remake starring Matthew Broderick. Will Foundation have Hank Azaria and Jean Reno to make it moderately less crummy? I doubt it, but it will also probably not feature P. Whoever-he-is-this-month ruining a Led Zeppelin song.

[Docfeelgood]

I doubt it, but it will also probably not feature P. Whoever-he-is-this-month ruining a Led Zeppelin song.

[BlackCat]

They had Randy Quaid play one to avoid hiring an actual Mexican, since Mexicans are scary, I guess. To be fair, I might be misremembering and he and his trailer full of Latino kids were actually supposed to be Puerto Rican or something. But, yeah, all the planes run out of missiles and they're all hovering around going "oh, crap, now what?" when Mexi-Quaid zooms up and takes one for the team by flying right into the alien ship's Blue Energy Death Orifice.

Stop being an idiot - he was all white that just had gotten himself a mexi woman and a couple of children - he was a vietnam vet so he couldn't be a mexi

[Elok]

Okay, it seems his last name was "Casse" in the film, after a Wiki-ing. Revision: "white war vets who have succumbed to alcoholism and have three half-Mexican kids to feed are there to be sacrificed." Much better, and thank you for the correction.

Also, Wiki adds that they originally planned to have him rejected for the final last-ditch pilot call due to his alcoholism, only to tie a bomb to his crop-duster and do the suicide-bomber thing anyway. Test audiences reacted well to the shot's comedic potential, supposedly. Oh, Emmerich, you genius!

[Imran Siddiqui]

It had the commonality that the individual was unimportant to the model, similar to the keynsian philosophy that the economy is a machine.

This is gibberish.

+1

Besides, every economic model discounts specific individuals (as from general ideas as to how individuals work within a system) - that's why they are models.

[Dinner]

It had the commonality that the individual was unimportant to the model, similar to the keynsian philosophy that the economy is a machine.

This is gibberish.

Ogie wrote it, what do you expect?

[Vanguard]

I would rather see:

Brian Reynold's Isaac Asimov's Foundation (BRIAF).

[rah]

With a huge selection to choose from, I can't imagine a worse book to make a movie out of. (well ok, there are probably many worse, but they wouldn't ever be considered.)