Tevatron is shutting down today.

[Elok]

If interstellar flight were somehow discovered to be more than a pipe dream, a moon colony could be useful for manufacturing the ship, I guess. However, barring some absolutely incredible discoveries from that apparent fluke of a neutrino experiment, we're limited by the speed of light. So yeah, moon bases are worthless.

[loinburger]

Christ on a crutch.

Launching **** off the moon is hella easier than building it on earth and launching it up to the moon. Sure, it's expensive in the beginning, but once it was up and running, you could get BIG stuff, not this rinky dink shuttle ****.

So your idea is to spend trillions of dollars of taxpayer money to build a manufacturing facility on the moon, and to then spend trillions of dollars of taxpayer money to ship all of the raw materials for a spaceship up to the moon, all with the intention of building a Big Spaceship, in order to accomplish... what?

And you call yourself a fiscal conservative

[giblets]

Damn those navel gazing leftists who want to tax people to pay for repairing structurally deficient bridges and think government sponsored research should be aimed at our energy needs. If only they'd come up with something far more expensive and far less useful.

[loinburger]

Here I thought Poly was forward looking. This is really depressing. *sigh*.

Poly has to be the most stuck in the mud, navel gazing forum ever. If I were to post this idea anywhere else, I could hit SOMEBODY who sees it the way I do.

But, that's 'progressives' for you. Can't see the **** forests for the trees.

Here's my awesome science idea: let's build a colony on one of Jupiter's moons so that we can siphon deuterium off of Jupiter and send it back to Earth to power fusion reactors.

Wait, what do you mean my idea is stupid/infeasible??? You can't see the forest for the trees. That's 'Catholics' for you.

[giblets]

Why settle for spending millions on bridges to nowhere when we can invest trillions in building a city on the moon that can construct and launch massive spaceships to nowhere?

[Pax]

So crazy it just might work. We get donations from the tea party to build a moonbase then use the money for healthcare, education and infrastructure. Then we show them pictures of the base. Charge them for flights to the "moonbase", take them to the arizona desert at and let them walk around in "mock spacesuits" at night.
When they ask questions..
Where's the Earth?
We're on the Dark side of the moon silly.
Hey, I thought the moon did'nt have atmosphere.
Oh that's the lunar wind..
What's that thing that looks like the moon.
That's the moons moon.

[loinburger]

"Before the Republicans support this spaceship manufacturing station on the moon, what are you planning on doing with the Big Spaceship you're going to build?"
"We're going to shoot the spaceship's humongous lasers at Muslims"
"Awesome"

[KrazyHorse]

Good thing we have the Superconducting Super Collider to take its place, right?

The SSC was a 40 billion dollar boondoggle that probably would have ballooned into an 80 billion dollar boondoggle if it hadn't been cut.

I have no idea why anybody other than physicists (and ex-physicists who benefit due to increased demand for close substitutes for their labor) are in favor of these things, when nobody other than the groups mentioned will ever have any understanding of the results or benefit in any concrete way.

[BlackCat]

But it would have been a very large dick that USasians could wave proudly - they need such to feel superior

[KrazyHorse]

Instead the euros have built a slightly smaller, cheaper dick.

[BlackCat]

I know, but theywe still can't find Higgs

Edit: gah, forgot that I'm a bloody euro

[KrazyHorse]

Good. Should keep them busy for a while.

I really hope they find my version of the Higgs:

1) I will be famous
2) It will take at least 5 years to find it, guaranteeing that I am no longer easily replaceable by the disenchanted physicists
3) It is a totally ******* extension to the SM that is absolutely uninteresting in every way other than the fact that it makes the Higgs hard to find at proton colliders

[giblets]

Why is there a threat of disenchanted physicists?

[KrazyHorse]

If they find the SM higgs and nothing else

[Jon Miller]

I actually like the fact that the US has started focusing on neutrino experiments instead.

JM