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  • An Unexpected Positive Side-Effect of the Arab Spring...

    Israel faces worst crisis with Egypt for 30 years as diplomats flee

    Anti-Israel sentiment in Egypt has been vociferous since the killing of five Egyptian soldiers by Israeli forces in the aftermath of a militant attack last month near the border between the two countries in which eight Israelis died. Thousands of people mobbed the Israeli embassy in Cairo, and Israel was forced to issue a statement regretting the deaths in the hope that it would contain the anti-Israel mood.

    Israel has been nervous about the future of its peace treaty with Egypt, signed 30 years ago, since its staunch ally, former president Hosni Mubarak, was forced out of office in an uprising earlier this year. It fears the temporary military government is more attuned to anti-Israel sentiment on the street.

    Israel is also deeply alarmed by its rapidly deteriorating relationship with Turkey, whose prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is to visit Cairo amid fears that he will attempt to forge an anti-Israel alliance with the new Egyptian government.

    "The situation with Turkey is not good, and the situation with Egypt is not good," said the Israeli official. "We hope this is not a sign of things to come."

    Both Turkey and Egypt are supporting the bid to have a Palestinian state recognised at the UN general assembly. Israel is braced for what its defence minister, Ehud Barak, described as a "diplomatic tsunami".

    The US – which has pledged to veto Palestinian statehood – is frantically trying to find a way of averting a vote, fearing further alienation within the Arab world. The Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, said US efforts to encourage the parties to return to negotiations had come "too late".
    Democracy in action...?

    About ****ing time, if you ask me!
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    If a war comes I hope the US doesn't get (more) involved with this crap.

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    • #3
      moby, your fascination with Israel is more than a little bit disturbing.

      Also, was anybody else able to tell within the first two sentences that the article came from the Guardian?
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
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      • #4
        Also, this is the second thread on this...
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #5
          yep... mob want's to protect the Libyan civilians with bombs while on the other hand has no problem with Egypt going to war with Israel and getting thousands of Egyptians killed over it... Why are Egyptian lives less worthy than Libyan ones, to him?
          Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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          • #6
            How can the US vote against recognizing a Palestinian state now when 63 years ago it voted to partition Palestine between the state of Israel and the state of Palestine? Isn't that effectively negating the original partition?
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
              yep... mob want's to protect the Libyan civilians with bombs
              Have you a reference ? Mobby usually supports dictators rights to kill civilians.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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              • #8
                i have given up haveing an opinion on this whole mess. they(both) dont seem to care so why should i?

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                • #9
                  Mobius (and the Guardian) will be happy when The Joos are pushed into the sea.

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                  • #10
                    I'm glad I'm not the only one to find the Guardian slightly anti-semitic.

                    I cannot think of any justification for being eager for an Israeli-Egyptian war. WTF, moby?
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                      If a war comes I hope the US doesn't get (more) involved with this crap.
                      Egypt and Israel are two of our biggest middle-eastern allies, there is no way we couldn't be involved with this. It is very much our problem if the Egyptians and the Israelis have a fight. It's also the European's problem, as the Suez is a pretty important piece of real estate.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • #12
                        Annex the Suez, fill it with NATO citizens. Canal Zone on steroids.
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #13
                          Even better, glass the eastern side until there is a channel in the middle in international waters.

                          EDIT: changed to be slightly less genocidal; we will save that for the same time we nuke Jerusalem
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #14
                            I had a problem wich thread would be aproiate for this, but I guess that this is fine :

                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Egypt and Israel are two of our biggest middle-eastern allies, there is no way we couldn't be involved with this. It is very much our problem if the Egyptians and the Israelis have a fight. It's also the European's problem, as the Suez is a pretty important piece of real estate.
                              The Europeans can worry about it if they want. The US should stay out of scuffles between crappy countries on the other side of the world.

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