Will KH be dog paddling down lower Manhattan?

[Tupac Shakur]

No wonder Lancer was pissed at you; marrying the girl is part of the deal.

[Aeson]

The only deal is between Net and I. I'm sorry you're too blind to understand this about love. Must be a lonely life you lead.

[Lorizael]

*Net and me.

[Jon Miller]

It was not an issue a couple of years ago, but generally I think that if people don't marry after a couple years that that means that something is wrong.

JM

[Lorizael]

It was not an issue a couple of years ago, but generally I think that if people don't marry after a couple years that that means that something is wrong.

JM

Oh really? My girlfriend and I have been together for two and a half years. We don't plan on having children together and we don't plan on being together for the rest of our lives. But we do make each other happy. Exactly what benefit would marriage be to us (outside of possible tax-related stuff)?

[Jon Miller]

Well, if your goal is to be together the rest of your lives, not planning on being together the rest of your lives is something wrong.

I wasn't meaning to imply that everyone should get married. Just saying that if the goal is marriage, then (barring things like university/etc) if people don't get married after a couple of years something is (or was) wrong. It shouldn't take that long to become married for two well adjusted/etc people.

I see a lot of people go along in a serious relationship for years... and they don't get married. And if they do, and then they break up soon after. And the reasons why they broke up were there all along, were obvious within the first two years, and they didn't break up just because it would hurt too much/be too difficult/etc.

If their goal is to find a soul mate, they would have been better served to cut it off at the 1-2 year mark and feel the pain and have the opportunity to find love that will work. Prolonging the relationship just makes things worse.

JM

[Lorizael]

You and I have different opinions on marriage generally (I think it's a pretty worthless symbol), but in terms of this particular discussion, I don't really have anything to add. My gut tells me an Apolyton argument should be nastier and last longer, though. Your father smells of elderberries?

[rah]

It was kind of funny. The last time I was in NE, I experienced Hurricane BOB.
Then I had to go to Boston last week for my Daughter's graduation and just missed Irene. My wife stayed an extra day and got stuck there.
Hopefully I will never have to go there again.

[The Mad Monk]

The NE will thank you.

[Jon Miller]

You and I have different opinions on marriage generally (I think it's a pretty worthless symbol), but in terms of this particular discussion, I don't really have anything to add. My gut tells me an Apolyton argument should be nastier and last longer, though. Your father smells of elderberries?

Yeah, it is obvious that it isn't really part of your plan.

And it might not be part of Net's or Aeson's either. But if it is, then I think there is a warning sign (and Net coming from a traditional society/etc, I am fairly certain it is part of her plan). Of course, I don't know specifics and there might be good reasons to delay.

JM

[Cort Haus]

Lorizael

[Cort Haus]

JM - some people don't feel the need to get married, particularly non-religious people.

I'm sure you don't really mean tell me there's something wrong with my relationship when you know nothing about it.

[Cort Haus]

Oh, and I should add that I've known people getting married & divorced three times in the years than me and my partner have been together. Did they have better relationships than me?

[Jon Miller]

JM - some people don't feel the need to get married, particularly non-religious people.

I'm sure you don't really mean tell me there's something wrong with my relationship when you know nothing about it.

If you read my posts, you would see that I was talking about those who wanted a life long marriage. If someone wants a life long marriage and they spend several years together without marrying, then it generally says something is wrong with their relationship (That they are not fixing).

If you don't value marriage or you don't want a life long relationship, then obviously it has nothing to do with you and says nothing about your relationship.

JM
(And yes, I recognize that especially in the last 60 years that people can value life long relationships but not value marriage. I am not denigrating peoples relationship who are like this.)

[Cort Haus]

Ah. Sorry, I misunderstood.