Earthquake in D.C.

[Kuciwalker]

What's the difference between taking something offline and shutting it down?

There's a reasonable spectrum of distinction here, with discretionary measures on one end and "the power plant blew up" on the other.

[Asher]

No, not in this context.

There's a reason the government and media have both described it as "taken offline". HC was wrong to correct, and everyone else is wrong to haggle about it.

"Knocked offline" would seem to be what you are thinking of. "Taken" implies intent.

[BlackCat]

No, not in this context.

There's a reason the government and media have both described it as "taken offline". HC was wrong to correct, and everyone else is wrong to haggle about it.

"Knocked offline" would seem to be what you are thinking of. "Taken" implies intent.

Asher, that's where you are wrong - if a plant is taken offline, then it's disconnected from the grid, not nessecarily unable to produce. Shutdown means it's production capability is stopped, wich of course means that it's taken off the grid.

[Asher]

Errrr. No.

It was taken off line as in new reactions were stopped and the focus was on cooling the fuel rods with backup diesel generators.

[Kuciwalker]

No, not in this context.

There's a reason the government and media have both described it as "taken offline". HC was wrong to correct, and everyone else is wrong to haggle about it.

"Knocked offline" would seem to be what you are thinking of. "Taken" implies intent.

The concern was that our power grid is vulnerable to these incidents. If the power plants are only taken offline as a matter of discretion, then in a situation where the established procedures would really threaten the power supply the authorities could choose otherwise. It's likely that the current procedures are built with an extraordinarily large error margin (since we're talking about nuclear plants) so there's probably plenty of room to trade minute amounts of risk for large amounts of electricity.

[BlackCat]

The concern was that our power grid is vulnerable to these incidents. If the power plants are only taken offline as a matter of discretion, then in a situation where the established procedures would really threaten the power supply the authorities could choose otherwise.

Are you claming that say the governor of a state could exclaim "**** the risk, continue producing" if a nuclear plant is in a earthquake shutdown ????

[Kuciwalker]

Safety procedures are (ought to be) set along a risk/reward efficient frontier. If it becomes more harmful to take the plants offline, then there is a greater reward to keeping them online and you should be willing to accept larger risks.

Duh.

[BlackCat]

Yeah. Tech: "Gov, the gas pressure are too high, the plant might explode" - Gov: "doesn't matter, the voters need the juice".

Are you for real Kuci ?