Vatican says gays are undeserving of basic human rights.

[Dinner]

Are you a murderer? I mean you wash off millions of human cells every time you take a shower so what's the difference between that and another collection of human cells incapable of an independent existence? Having the potentional to become something doesn't mean it will become something especially since most pregnancies end in the ball of cells dying on it's own anyway.

[C0ckney]

oh come oerdin i think the difference is pretty clear.

[Asher]

That's probably a bannable offense without proof.

Where's your proof Asher?

That you've defended the Catholic pedophile priests? You've done it countless times here.

[Dinner]

oh come oerdin i think the difference is pretty clear.

Only to people who don't understand the difference between potentiality and reality.

[loinburger]

Skin cells etc don't meet the qualifications for an "organism." Zygotes (but not gametes), on the other hand, do meet the qualifications for an "organism."

[Felch]

Skin cells etc don't meet the qualifications for an "organism." Zygotes (but not gametes), on the other hand, do meet the qualifications for an "organism."

This.

[Tupac Shakur]

i agree with felch here. i support legal abortion but i do wish people wouldn't lie about what it is. it's clear and obvious that a fetus is human and that it is a separate organism (albeit one dependant on its mother). to argue otherwise flies in the face of biology.

[Dr Strangelove]

Only because late pregnancy abortions have been banned.

Oh no they have not! The last Supreme Court decision left it up to the state whether or not to limit abortions in the third trimester. Eleven states have no restrictions on late term abortions. Partial birth abortions are banned though.

[Hauldren Collider]

Thanks for the clarification, doc, I did not know that.

[Asher]

I take it those who think 1st/2nd trimester abortions are murder are also vegetarians?

[Tupac Shakur]

I take it those who think 1st/2nd trimester abortions are murder are also vegetarians?

No. I'm just not opposed to murder in certain situations.

[Al B. Sure!]

Vegans who are pro-choice (and there's a lot of them) always amuse me.

[Asher]

No. I'm just not opposed to murder in certain situations.

As long as you're okay with the inconsistency.

Most livestock is demonstrably more sentient and intelligent than any fetus at all, yet most pro-lifers will happily slaughter them by the dozen and not bat an eye.

[giblets]

I don't have any particular desire to defend vegans, but I think a cow is probably smarter than a month-old fetus.

[Hauldren Collider]

The difference is that a cow will never become a person. Cows are probably smarter than a month old baby and no one seems to be advocating for infanticide despite that being the obvious logical conclusion of many pro-abortion advocates such as Barbara Boxer.