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    Vatican Likens Being Gay To Incest, Pedophilia In Condemning UN Gay Rights Resolution
    By On Top Magazine Staff
    Published: July 08, 2011The Vatican has likened being gay to incest and pedophilia in condemning a United Nations gay rights resolution.

    Earlier this year, the United States backed a non-binding United Nations resolution condemning discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

    President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton cheered passed of the resolution in the 47-member Human Rights Council.

    Obama called the resolution's passage a “significant milestone in the long struggle for [LGBT] equality.”

    “This represents a historic moment to highlight the human rights abuses and violations that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people face around the world based solely on who they are and who they love,” Clinton said.

    While the measure was backed by representatives from the European Union, Brazil and other Latin American countries, African and Islamic countries condemned the resolution, saying it had “nothing to do with fundamental rights.”

    Archbishop Silvano M. Tomasi, the Vatican's representative to the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva, objected to the resolution, the Catholic News Agency reported.

    “The archbishop expanded on a point he has previously tried to impress upon the Human Rights Council, as he observed that all societies regulate sexual behavior to some extent – by forbidding practices like incest, pedophilia, or rape – for the sake of the common good.”

    While Tomasi reiterated that he does not support violence against gay men and lesbians, he also suggest that being gay is a choice.

    “Instead of 'gender,' the concept we should use is 'sex,' a universal term in natural law referring to male and female,” Tomasi said.

    “In fact, it seems that terms such as 'gender' or 'sexual orientation' are devised to escape reality and to accommodate a variety of feelings and impulses that then are transformed into rights.”
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    I think they know pedophilia when they see it. And they definitely recognize that societies have the right to prosecute those who engage in it for the common good.

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    • #3
      China and Russia objected too. See? The Vatican is in good company here.
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        That's not really an argument, Herr Doctor.
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        • #5
          For the vatican it is.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
            China and Russia objected too. See? The Vatican is in good company here.
            Our foreign minister, who is gay, said the same. But he meant the vote about the Libya thing..../worthless bit of anecdotic info
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            • #7
              Originally posted by BeBro View Post
              Our foreign minister, who is gay, said the same. But he meant the vote about the Libya thing..../worthless bit of anecdotic info
              Holy Cow! They're forming an alliance!
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              • #8
                Probably
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                • #9
                  What exactly did you find surprising, MrFun? It's part of their world view that homosexuality is a sin, and a gay who doesn't fight his sin, saying it's natural, is similar to a psychopath who doesn't feel remorse when killing and kills in cold blood, saying it's feels natural to him. Sodomy may be a victimless crime in a secular law, but in a Catholic law the victim is the gay himself.
                  Of course this doesn't mean you should endorse it, just like they shouldn't endorse your view that it's a natural and harmless deviation.
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                  • #10
                    If it's self-victimization wouldn't it make more sense to compare it to suicide? Or possibly things like incest and adultery. Comparing it to pedophilia? Really?

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                    • #11
                      I believe that in Catholic world view, suicides are worse than pedophiles.

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                      • #12
                        What do you mean by basic human rights? The Vatican is clearly stating that it opposes violence against homosexuals. Do you think that getting married is a basic human right?
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                        • #13
                          I think there is more to discrimination than marriage rights.

                          But yes, being able to wed the person you love and have the rights and responsibilities that go with marriage is a pretty basic human right.
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                          • #14
                            In that case the human rights of gays have never been respected during all of mankind's history until some countries legalized gay mariage this past decade.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Felch View Post
                              What do you mean by basic human rights? The Vatican is clearly stating that it opposes violence against homosexuals. Do you think that getting married is a basic human right?
                              QFT, I think the idea that gay marriage is some sort of fundamental civil right is nonsense, regardless of whether legalizing it is a good idea.
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