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  • #16
    I'll give it a try; when it starts up again
    Former President, Vice-president and Foreign Minister of the Apolyton Civ2-Democracy Games as 123john321

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    • #17
      Plus Interruptus
      Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
      RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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      • #18
        I don't get it.
        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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        • #19
          Thursday June 30, 2011
          Google Plus
          I got a Google Plus invite and started playing with it. Before long I'd spammed a couple dozen friends, acquaintances, business partners, and peers with invites.

          My thoughts. Well, let me lead with what's wrong with Facebook:

          1.Nobody is competing with it in ways that force innovation.
          2.At least not innovation for the features I need.
          3.Yeah, that's pretty much it.
          I don't have issues with privacy, or copyright, or rollout practices, or targeted advertising, or any of that. I think the transparent society is coming, and Facebook lets us taste it a decade or so early so we can update our antiquated concepts of privacy and copyright. The coming world is one in which everybody walks around with a camera which is connected to a network that instantly copies anything interesting to a million different places at once.

          In short, if you have an issue with Facebook's privacy policies, you don't really have an issue with Facebook. You have an issue with the Future. Please don't yell at me about it. I don't like pooping in a glass bathroom either. But in the future, all the bathrooms are made of glass.

          Moving on...

          Facebook has decided, as communicated through their feature set, that real people don't have more than 5,000 friends. Okay, by any back-yard barbecue definition of "friend," real people do not.

          But people like me sort of do. SORT of. The social network definition of "friend" is not a back-yard barbecue.

          I'm making a living because my work has attracted tens of thousands of fans. As a traveling professional, both in I.T. and as a cartoonist, I've met enough people that I now have thousands of acquaintances. I've shaken hands with, been introduced to, swapped emails with, and argued with hundreds of fellow-professionals, peers in these industries. I do actual business with dozens of these people, who are now effectively business partners of mine. And, like many people, I have a small circle of close friends.

          But those contracting rings don't explain the whole story. There are nine people in my immediate family (my siblings, my spouse, my children) Factor the in-laws and I've already lost count. Forty? Factor Sandra's extended family and the number jumps to around 300. Which, coincidentally, is about the number of people I count as "neighbors" here in our neighborhood in Utah. Yes, I recognize most of them. Utah's weird that way. Also, most of them are not Schlock Mercenary fans. How's THAT for weird?

          Coming back around to the point, Facebook won't let me define these relationships in a useful way. People can "like" my Facebook Page. They can join the Schlock Mercenary Facebook Group. And there is room for another 2500 of them to ask to be defined as a "friend." But once people have connected in one of these ways, there's no way for me to further categorize them, other than to individulaly indicate that I want to view or hide posts from them.

          What Google Plus appears to be offering is the opportunity for me to link to these people in the same way I link to them in real life. Fans (who I love dearly because they make my career possible) go in a massive circle whose aggregated news feed is just too much for me to follow. Cooler still, I don't even need to put them into that circle -- they can just put ME in a circle that they may have called "webcartoonists" or "iCelebrities," or perhaps "Keep Your Enemies Closer." Meanwhile, friends, family, business partners, clients, industry peers, members of the press... these folks can all go in other circles (and can be in more than one) so that (and here's the kicker) I can communicate with each of these groups of people differently.

          I'm the same person regardless of where I am or who I'm with, but I do communicate differently to each group. I smile, nod, and am as gracious as possible around fans. I frown, scowl, go pensive, and then grin ferally around business partners. I compliment peers on the work they've done. I politely inquire about the niceties of my extended family. I tell my children to do the dishes. I tell poop jokes with my brother (on Twitter, in front of the fans... but I digress.)

          To be sure, I wish Facebook would support all of this. My early adoption of Google Plus accomplishes two things to that end: it lends weight to the argument that those features are worth implementing by Facebook, and it lets me practice wrapping my brain around what kinds of relationships I actually have with the people in my life. Putting people in circles (and deciding whether new circles needed to be created) was one of the most fascinating bits of introspection I've done. And fortunately, there's some data portability built in. I can download a zip file that contains the circles I've defined.

          So... I'm sorry if I spammed you while I was thinking about the relationship you and I share. Or, more likely since there are tens of thousands of you reading this, and I only spammed a few dozen people, I'm sorry you didn't have any inkling at all that I was having these thoughts, because that lack of notification means I wasn't actually thinking about YOU. Either way, I can see some of you bristling a bit.

          Most of you should just choose to keep following me on Twitter. For now, that's where all the poop-jokes go.
          http://www.schlockmercenary.com/
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #20
            Unless they add about a couple hundred new features in the next month, this is going to go the way of Google Wave.
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
            ){ :|:& };:

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            • #21
              Facebook is just a giant CRM that lacks functionality right now.
              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                Unless they add about a couple hundred new features in the next month, this is going to go the way of Google Wave.
                I'm kind of hoping they don't add the "new features". Facebook is becoming the new MySpace with all of the games/apps. Most of my friends have stopped using it because of that.

                I'd love for Google+ to be an honest-to-god social site. None of this Farmville crap or "pages".

                When Facebook came out, MySpace had all of the features and Facebook was simple and basic.

                Now Facebook is bloated, and Google+ is simple and basic...

                The problem with Wave was there was no real use case for it. It was technology looking for a problem. Google+ is working within a well-defined space.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #23
                  The one thing that I think will keep facebook relevant is the integration of it as universal credential for other websites. just used it for Onthesnow.com
                  "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                  'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    I'm kind of hoping they don't add the "new features". Facebook is becoming the new MySpace with all of the games/apps. Most of my friends have stopped using it because of that.

                    I'd love for Google+ to be an honest-to-god social site. None of this Farmville crap or "pages".

                    When Facebook came out, MySpace had all of the features and Facebook was simple and basic.

                    Now Facebook is bloated, and Google+ is simple and basic...

                    The problem with Wave was there was no real use case for it. It was technology looking for a problem. Google+ is working within a well-defined space.
                    No, google wave's problem is that it sucked.
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                    ){ :|:& };:

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                    • #25
                      What sucked about it? Technology wise, I thought it was great. The one niche I could find to use it with was really well done (collaborative brainstorming over long distances). There just was so little reason to use it mostly.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #26
                        The one conference I had on Wave it just couldn't keep up. The weird threading model in the chat didn't work well with a large group.
                        "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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                        • #27
                          Thanks Asher, pity about hte Interruptus (damned Americans stealing all the slots )
                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            What sucked about it? Technology wise, I thought it was great. The one niche I could find to use it with was really well done (collaborative brainstorming over long distances). There just was so little reason to use it mostly.
                            What sucked was that once you had more than about 15 people in a wave it crashed every browser.
                            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                            ){ :|:& };:

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                            • #29
                              The Android app of Google+ has "Huddle" support -- groupchat. Looks painless also.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #30
                                Perhaps we'll find that these types of social networks simply need to be refreshed after a few years. Google+ may become a leader only to be replaced by something else later.
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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