You sunk my battleship

[onodera]

Sometimes I think Albie MUST be a subtle troll, a joint creation of Asher and Drake. Even brown people cannot be this Benlike in their blatant disregard for obvious facts.

[Heraclitus]

No different then The Sands of Time," which stars white actor Jake Gyllenhaal in the title role instead of an actor with a Middle Eastern background.

There are many many examples of blockbuster movies where the title role of a different ethnicity was played by a white man.

Airbenders anyone?

To be fair Persians are basically White. Check out the pictures from the Persian American artilce on wikipedia. Only one could be seens as clearly nonWhite, and about two or so look kind of Hisapnic or Arab, the rest are clearly just White people.

[Heraclitus]

lol @ this thread though...

[Cort Haus]

HC, I decline your interpretation, and took the liberty of conjugating it.

I pep. You pep. he/she/it peps. etc

Pep: To invigorate.
Cola: A drink originally involving cocaine.

[Al B. Sure!]

To be fair Persians are basically White. Check out the pictures from the Persian American artilce on wikipedia. Only one could be seens as clearly nonWhite, and about two or so look kind of Hisapnic or Arab, the rest are clearly just White people.

Now do the same thing with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_American

All white people.

[Asher]

Real white people have blue eyes.

[giblets]

To be fair Persians are basically White. Check out the pictures from the Persian American artilce on wikipedia. Only one could be seens as clearly nonWhite, and about two or so look kind of Hisapnic or Arab, the rest are clearly just White people.

Whoosh?

[Al B. Sure!]

I'm just intrigued that Heraclitus confers white-dom to Persians but not to Arabs even though he of all people should know:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2007.00413.x/abstract;jsessionid=FF2D604E353CC9D5D69ECDA76156970E.d02t01?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+2+July+from+10-12+BST+for+monthly+maintenance

As part of a continuing investigation of the extent to which the genetic and linguistic relationships of populations are correlated, we analyzed mtDNA HV1 sequences, eleven Y chromosome bi-allelic markers, and 9 Y-STR loci in two neighboring groups from the southwest of Iran who speak languages belonging to different families: Indo-European-speaking Bakhtiari, and Semitic-speaking Arabs. Both mtDNA and the Y chromosome, showed a close relatedness of these groups with each other and with neighboring geographic groups, irrespective of the language spoken. Moreover, Semitic-speaking North African groups are more distant genetically from Semitic-speaking groups from the Near East and Iran. Thus, geographical proximity better explains genetic relatedness between populations than does linguistic relatedness in this part of the world.

The lack of significant differentiation between west Asian Semitic-speaking and Indo-European-speaking groups indicates that language has not been a substantial barrier to gene flow in this part of the world. This conclusion receives further support when North African Semitic-speaking groups are also considered. West Asian Semitic-speaking groups are more similar genetically to West Asian Indo-European-speaking groups than they are to North African Semitic-speaking groups.

[giblets]

If they're white why do they have such low IQ's?

[Al B. Sure!]

If they're white why do they have such low IQ's?

According to the questionable Richard Lynn, whom Heraclitus absolute loves, Iran has an average IQ of 84. The average IQ of neighboring Iraq is 87. So Arab Iraqis, according to Heraclitus' source for IQ's, are smarter than Persians.

Of course, these numbers are obviously questionable, especially when they posit that the average IQ in Equatorial Guinea is a 59 which denotes mental retardation.

[giblets]

Why did you cherry pick the arab country with the best score? Maybe the kurds are giving Iraq a better average.

[Al B. Sure!]

Why did you cherry pick the arab country with the best score? Maybe the kurds are giving Iraq a better average.

Iraq neighbors Iran. How the hell is that cherry-picking to pick the neighboring country?

[Al B. Sure!]

Maybe the kurds are giving Iraq a better average.

The Kurds are an Iranian people. If the Kurds are inflating Iraq's average, they'd have to be smarter than the Iranians. But Kurds are an Iranian people.

Lynn is full of **** anyway, but even if we accept him, that's my response to your stupidity.

[giblets]

What, now you're assuming all iranian peoples are equally smart and all iranians are iranian peoples? And what makes Iraq representative of arabs, as opposed to, say, Saudi Arabia or Egypt?

Also, my stupidity? You're taking these comments seriously?

[Al B. Sure!]

Because you're a ******...

Lynn says:
Iraq: 87
Iran: 84
Saudi Arabia: 83

15-20% of Iraq's population is Kurdish.

The average IQ of Saudi Arabia is 83. Since 31% of Saudi Arabia's population are predominately South Asian immigrants (Lynn gives India's average IQ as 81; no data for Pakistan), that means the average IQ of the Arab population is not reflected in that score. Assuming the largely South Asian 31% of the Saudi population has an average IQ of 81 and the average in the kingdom is 83, the Arab average would be 84 (84*.69+81*.31).

84, of course, is the IQ given for Iran.

Or, if you prefer, even if the Arab population in Saudi Arabia averaged an 83 IQ, as did the Arab population in Iraq, what IQ would Kurds, an Iranian people, have to have to bring the Iraqi average up to 87?

Run the numbers... 103 IQ would be necessary, assuming 20% of the population. A 110 IQ assuming 15% of the population.

(103*.20+83*.80 or 110*.15+83*.85)

Is that likely, given Lynn's numbers? Why would the Kurds be so much smarter than both the Arabs and their fellow Iranian-speakers?