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  • #91
    Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
    cort's articles put it far better than i could, but i will say that this sort thinking from people who profess to believe in democracy is disturbing.
    Mkay, the pro side had "the Irish are uneuopean/whatever evilguys" while the others come out with "oh you're all undemocratic".

    In Switzerland, which has been presented to me as a beacon of direct democracy on this forum several times, they have multiple referendums on the same issue on a regular basis. I'll concede that their political system makes it easier to organize referendums generally, but if your point is that a "no" means the end of the story I have to conclude they are in fact worse than the EU when it comes to the whole democracy thing
    Blah

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      I have a gut feeling crime rates among Arab-Americans are incredibly low.
      It seems plausible to me that you are right.
      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
        It seems plausible to me that you are right.
        So what's the deal then? Why do they supposedly tend towards bad behavior in Europe but not America?
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
          So what's the deal then? Why do they supposedly tend towards bad behavior in Europe but not America?
          Arabs in America =/= Arabs in Europe

          and further more

          =/= Arabs in Arab countries


          I don't see why this is counter-intuitive. Mexicans living in Europe are obviously from a different subset of Mexicans than those living in the US aren't they?
          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
            Arabs in America =/= Arabs in Europe

            and further more

            =/= Arabs in Arab countries


            I don't see why this is counter-intuitive. Mexicans living in Europe are obviously from a different subset of Mexicans than those living in the US aren't they?

            It's not like Arabs are crossing a border into France Why should the subset be different?
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
              Arabs in America =/= Arabs in Europe

              and further more

              =/= Arabs in Arab countries


              I don't see why this is counter-intuitive. Mexicans living in Europe are obviously from a different subset of Mexicans than those living in the US aren't they?
              Yet it's somehow a fact that blacks in France commit a lot of crimes because it happens in other western countries?

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              • #97
                Don't expect logic from people who approve phrases like "I have a gut feeling" to support their racist bull****.
                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                We've got both kinds

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                • #98
                  You guys are a hoot.


                  Arabs and Blacks in France are there because the French used to have plenty of colonies from where legal migration was easier to France, heck French Guiana has plenty of Blacks and is a part of France. Also there is a constant stream of Subsaharan illegal immigration into North African. These immigrants and locals from the region in turn immigrate illegally across the Mediterranean.


                  Crossing the Atlantic is a bit more tricky n'est-ce pas?


                  Legal immigration to the US is hard. Illegal Arab immigration isn't a noteworthy phenomena. Arabs in the US are thus a pretty small (easily assimilated) and selected bunch of people. This is the seam reason that as a group African Americans who recently came to the US from Africa or Caribbean Blacks do well there. Also note that the US has a higher fraction of Christian Arabs among Arab Americans, these tend to assimilate pretty well even in Europe.


                  Also Blacks have lower IQs and that correlates to higher criminality, so letting in representative groups of African immigrants into a First or Second world country will always see them disproportionately responsible for crime, at least untill new immigrants represent a tiny fraction of the community and new generations catch up IQ wise. My opinion is that they never will until we master genetic engineering, but I may be wrong on that, perhaps its all environmental and like the Irish a better environment will unlock until now wasted potential. However it is uncontroversial that the IQ gap is real. Even the higher estimates found in the literature put SubSaharan average IQs in the low 80s.


                  I find it tiring I have to waste time arguing something so blindingly true.


                  All else being equal Blacks commit more violent crimes and use more illegal drugs in every first world nation that keeps the stats. Actually developing world countries that have sizeable mixed populations and keep stats indicate the same pattern.


                  It seems awfully suspect to me to assume that the ones that don't keep stats are obviously enough exempt from this general trend to convict people who argue they aren't to fines and prison sentences.
                  Last edited by Heraclitus; June 24, 2011, 12:52.
                  Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                  The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                    This article can be summed up as, "Gee, Japan's been great ever since America nuked them!"
                    Nuking
                    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                    • Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                      You guys are a hoot.


                      Arabs and Blacks in France are there because the French used to have plenty of colonies from where legal migration was easier to France, heck French Guiana has plenty of Blacks and is a part of France. Also there is a constant stream of Subsaharan illegal immigration into North African. These immigrants and locals from the region in turn immigrate illegally across the Mediterranean.


                      Crossing the Atlantic is a bit more tricky n'est-ce pas?


                      Legal immigration to the US is hard. Illegal Arab immigration isn't a noteworthy phenomena. Arabs in the US are thus a pretty small (easily assimilated) and selected bunch of people. This is the seam reason that as a group African Americans who recently came to the US from Africa or Caribbean Blacks do well there. Also note that the US has a higher fraction of Christian Arabs among Arab Americans, these tend to assimilate pretty well even in Europe.


                      Also Blacks have lower IQs and that correlates to higher criminality, so letting in representative groups of African immigrants into a First or Second world country will always see them disproportionately responsible for crime, at least untill new immigrants represent a tiny fraction of the community and new generations catch up IQ wise. My opinion is that they never will until we master genetic engineering, but I may be wrong on that, perhaps its all environmental and like the Irish a better environment will unlock until now wasted potential. However it is uncontroversial that the IQ gap is real. Even the higher estimates found in the literature put SubSaharan average IQs in the low 80s.


                      I find it tiring I have to waste time arguing something so blindingly true.


                      All else being equal Blacks commit more violent crimes and use more illegal drugs in every first world nation that keeps the stats. Actually developing world countries that have sizeable mixed populations and keep stats indicate the same pattern.


                      It seems awfully suspect to me to assume that the ones that don't keep stats are obviously enough exempt from this general trend to convict people who argue they aren't to fines and prison sentences.
                      Thank you for saying the same thing again in a more verbose way. "lol blacks in other countries are more likely to commit crimes so it's a FACT that most of the drug dealers in France are black even if I can't present any evidence that this is the case".

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                      • 100% of the drug-dealers I encountered when I spent a lot of time in France 15-20 years ago were white.

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                        • Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                          You guys are a hoot.


                          Arabs and Blacks in France are there because the French used to have plenty of colonies from where legal migration was easier to France, heck French Guiana has plenty of Blacks and is a part of France. Also there is a constant stream of Subsaharan illegal immigration into North African. These immigrants and locals from the region in turn immigrate illegally across the Mediterranean.


                          Crossing the Atlantic is a bit more tricky n'est-ce pas?


                          Legal immigration to the US is hard. Illegal Arab immigration isn't a noteworthy phenomena. Arabs in the US are thus a pretty small (easily assimilated) and selected bunch of people. This is the seam reason that as a group African Americans who recently came to the US from Africa or Caribbean Blacks do well there. Also note that the US has a higher fraction of Christian Arabs among Arab Americans, these tend to assimilate pretty well even in Europe.


                          Also Blacks have lower IQs and that correlates to higher criminality, so letting in representative groups of African immigrants into a First or Second world country will always see them disproportionately responsible for crime, at least untill new immigrants represent a tiny fraction of the community and new generations catch up IQ wise. My opinion is that they never will until we master genetic engineering, but I may be wrong on that, perhaps its all environmental and like the Irish a better environment will unlock until now wasted potential. However it is uncontroversial that the IQ gap is real. Even the higher estimates found in the literature put SubSaharan average IQs in the low 80s.


                          I find it tiring I have to waste time arguing something so blindingly true.


                          All else being equal Blacks commit more violent crimes and use more illegal drugs in every first world nation that keeps the stats. Actually developing world countries that have sizeable mixed populations and keep stats indicate the same pattern.


                          It seems awfully suspect to me to assume that the ones that don't keep stats are obviously enough exempt from this general trend to convict people who argue they aren't to fines and prison sentences.
                          Blacks have lower IQ's... Blacks are criminal savages... Did I accidentally stumble on Stormfront.com?
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • The only thing a slov understands is the blunt end of a stick. The sharp end is for ending the conversation.
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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                            • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                              I thought #7 kinda detracted from the whole "9 ways for white supremacists to justify wanting to bone hot Japanese chicks" vibe I was getting from the OP.
                              It is a weird phenomenon. Skin heads with yellow fever and it's not like they're in love with individual women who just so happen to be Japanese or Asian but instead they fetishize females of a certain nationality or a whole race due to perceptions of meekness or servitude towards men especially hyper masculine foreign white men all while espousing neo-Nazi nonsense. Talk about dehumanizing and neo-colonialist.

                              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                              It's a very incompetent totalitarian anti-racism state, I guess.
                              Tell me about it.
                              Last edited by Dinner; June 24, 2011, 20:11.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Blacks have lower IQ's... Blacks are criminal savages... Did I accidentally stumble on Stormfront.com?
                                Sky is blue, grass is green, Whites have higher IQs than Blacks.

                                There is nothing controversial about this. The only controversial idea is that genetics might have something to do with it.



                                Also I find it almost disturbing people are comparing contributors to Taki mag to Nazis and Skinheads while completely failing to appreciate the humour of the Op.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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