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  • #16
    But the list is undeniably screaming that the author is jingoist and cheap.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
      His point is Japan couldn't be Japan if it wasn't practically monoracial and the Japanese know this. They also like Japan just fine as it is, imagine that!

      Also monoracial societies don't need to trouble themselves with constant witch hunts for racism and have higher levels of trust.
      Indeed. Poly OT troubles itself with constant (and pointless) witch hunts for racism.

      BTW I thought the OP was funny.

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      • #18
        Poly isn't monoracial. Certainly not monocultural.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
          Wut? No.

          He was insinuating that Canada and England where silly to change their ethnic make up (btw Canada's racial make up wasn't all White but included first nations for starters). Looking at England he was clearly right. Canada however appears to be the only Western country to have had a net benefit from its post 60s immigration policy.
          Silly to change their ethnic make up? What does that mean? How can that not be a support for racism? You can't seem to comprehend that ideas like "Germany for the Germans" is racist. We're all human and no country is just for one particular group of people.
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Aeson View Post
            Poly isn't monoracial. Certainly not monocultural.
            True. But the numerous OT rows about race, and religion, go nowhere. Nobody changes their position at all. Seems a bit pointless to me.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
              Silly to change their ethnic make up? What does that mean? How can that not be a support for racism? You can't seem to comprehend that ideas like "Germany for the Germans" is racist. We're all human and no country is just for one particular group of people.
              But no country is obliged to open its borders to all and sundry. Japan takes very few migrants or refugees, that seems fair enough. Japan already has a very large population in a small area anyway.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                Poly isn't monoracial.
                Pssh... Apolyton is like Utah
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                  But the list is undeniably screaming that the author is jingoist and cheap.
                  Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy. In practice, it is a country's advocation of the use of threats or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what it perceives as its national interests. Colloquially, it refers to excessive bias in judging one's own country as superior to others – an extreme type of nationalism.
                  Uh, no.

                  Don't see how this meshes well with any of his points (must of them implicitly point out how much the Anglosphere sucks compared to Japan) to be honest. And there is no indication he favours an aggressive foreign policy. strange place the modern world where pointing out that making origami is just as effective and much cheaper than bombing the "axis of evil" country of the weak in achieving world peace gets you called Jingoistic.

                  Yes he's clearly a somewhat nationalistic, but paleocons are not jingoists, that would be the neocons who want to bomb Muslims people until they love Israel and start voting or something.
                  Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                  The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    Silly to change their ethnic make up? What does that mean? How can that not be a support for racism? You can't seem to comprehend that ideas like "Germany for the Germans" is racist. We're all human and no country is just for one particular group of people.
                    But Africa is for Africans and India for Indians and Jews don't belong in Palestine amirite?

                    In any case South Korea and Japan seem to be undeniably racist and doing great. Maybe racism is working out fine for the Japanese and Koreans?

                    But I suppose Liberia is also racist (only Blacks can be citizens, I think that makes them the only explicitly racist country on the planet) but isn't doing so great, so that argument fails. Clearly both the Japanese and Liberians would be better of if they agreed to open borders with each other. Right?
                    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                    • #25
                      #7 was already noted as completely irrelevant to the rest of the article.

                      The rest of it is the author's way of saying foreigners shouldn't be allowed to influence his own country (presumably one of those he's deriding as having done so already). He's jingoist in that if he had his own way, we'd have shut out everyone wanting to come here because he thinks it's bad to mix cultures. (Hypocrite since he's a foreigner living in the place he believes is so great because they don't let the trash like him in.)

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                      • #26
                        I stopped reading when the guy claimed England and Canada are becoming fascist states. Wut?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                          The rest of it is the author's way of saying foreigners shouldn't be allowed to influence his own country (presumably one of those he's deriding as having done so already).
                          Wierd concept I know. The idea that the state needs to look out for the best interests of its current citizens even if it means it can't make everyone on the planet its citizen.

                          Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                          (Hypocrite since he's a foreigner living in the place he believes is so great because they don't let the trash like him in.)
                          Yeah totally its like people who support the welfare state but don't give to charity personally.

                          You can take advantage of a silly set of rules while pointing out that everyone would be better of if the rules where changed.
                          Last edited by Heraclitus; June 23, 2011, 02:31.
                          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                            I stopped reading when the guy claimed England and Canada are becoming fascist states. Wut?
                            A nation based on a idea, basically means everyone needs to ascribe to that idea or pay it tribute in public.

                            For example: The EU today is soft totalitarian any challenge of the basic concepts on which its built has been criminalized.
                            Last edited by Heraclitus; June 23, 2011, 02:36.
                            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                              A nation based on a idea, basically means everyone needs to ascribe to that idea. The EU today is soft totalitarian any challenge of the basic concepts on which its built has been criminalized.
                              Canada is not part of the EU, so I'm not sure why you changed the subject. Please explain to me what the EU is founded on and how people are sent to prison for challenging whatever it is.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                                Canada is not part of the EU, so I'm not sure why you changed the subject. Please explain to me what the EU is founded on and how people are sent to prison for challenging whatever it is.
                                The UK is part of the EU the last time I checked. Also does Canada have restrictions on free speech? Naturally. What exactly is "hate speech", is agitating for a nation state or challenging universalism hate speech? In theory no, in practice yes.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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