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  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Yes you can. Gun licenses work like that, for instance. It's also illegal to take a minor across state lines in order to evade age of consent laws. Both are similar to this.
    1) Licensing is, by nature, location specific
    2) Prohibition against taking a minor across state lines is a federal law, not a state one. Federal law on abortion can't prohibit that movement due to court decisions.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • Originally posted by Felch View Post
      Then why can't I buy a handgun in Virginia?
      Is that against federal or Virginia law? I have trouble believing Virginia would have anything but token restrictions on gun purchases.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
        1) Licensing is, by nature, location specific
        2) Prohibition against taking a minor across state lines is a federal law, not a state one. Federal law on abortion can't prohibit that movement due to court decisions.
        Obviously you could make it federal law that you can't get an abortion outside of the state you live in. This is all predicated on overturning that horrible supreme court decision Roe v. Wade.
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          Is that against federal or Virginia law? I have trouble believing Virginia would have anything but token restrictions on gun purchases.
          Maryland restricts what states I can buy guns from. I can go to PA or VA and buy a non-regulated rifle or shotgun, but I'd have to have any handgun or regulated rifle sold to me by a Maryland FFL holder.
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • Originally posted by Felch View Post
            Then why can't I buy a handgun in Virginia?
            I'm searching Google for Virginia law and I don't know... you should be able to.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
              1) Licensing is, by nature, location specific.
              If we have gun licenses, and guns are a constitutionally protected right, why can't we have abortion licenses?
              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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              • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                Maryland restricts what states I can buy guns from. I can go to PA or VA and buy a non-regulated rifle or shotgun, but I'd have to have any handgun or regulated rifle sold to me by a Maryland FFL holder.
                That's Maryland law on its residents. Has nothing to do with Virginia law vis a vis residents vs. non-residents buying a handgun.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                  I'm searching Google for Virginia law and I don't know... you should be able to.
                  I can buy one if it gets transferred to a Maryland dealer first. It's a Maryland law, which might be the reason. I'm a citizen of my state, yadda yadda yadda.
                  John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    Obviously you could make it federal law that you can't get an abortion outside of the state you live in. This is all predicated on overturning that horrible supreme court decision Roe v. Wade.
                    Don't be holding your breath.

                    Originally posted by Felch View Post
                    If we have gun licenses, and guns are a constitutionally protected right, why can't we have abortion licenses?
                    You mean making the person get a license from the state before they can undergo a medical producure? That may be seen in a different light than regulations on gun ownership . Reasonable restrictions and whatnot.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                      That's Maryland law on its residents. Has nothing to do with Virginia law vis a vis residents vs. non-residents buying a handgun.
                      So would a state have the right to restrict its citizens from crossing state lines for an abortion? Specifically, could West Virginia prohibit its people from taking advantage of favorable laws in Maryland?
                      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        Roe v. Wade, obviously. Worst decision since Plessy v. Ferguson.
                        Originally posted by Elok View Post
                        If you're referring to making abortion illegal, that's impossible.
                        No, I was referring to someone making an organization to offer all the same services as PP but without abortion, and making that available nationwide. If it would be such a popular organization, then why hasn't it been done yet?

                        It's the same with Roe vs Wade though, if enough Americans wanted to change it it'd be overridden, but the simple fact is that you don't have a significant majority of Americans who do think that. Until there is, the morality of a minority cannot be allowed to determine the rights of half the population.

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                        • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                          So would a state have the right to restrict its citizens from crossing state lines for an abortion? Specifically, could West Virginia prohibit its people from taking advantage of favorable laws in Maryland?
                          I don't think so. Maryland's law is likely based on owning an out of state gun in state.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • No.

                            The court ruled, the majorities will does not matter.

                            A constitutional amendment might work.

                            JM
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                            • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                              No, I was referring to someone making an organization to offer all the same services as PP but without abortion, and making that available nationwide. If it would be such a popular organization, then why hasn't it been done yet?

                              It's the same with Roe vs Wade though, if enough Americans wanted to change it it'd be overridden, but the simple fact is that you don't have a significant majority of Americans who do think that. Until there is, the morality of a minority cannot be allowed to determine the rights of half the population.
                              No. The Supreme Court justices are not democratically elected, and the interpretation of the constitution is not democratically decided. It is up to the Supreme Court to reverse its decision.
                              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                As a policy issue, my personal opinion is that we should a) make traveling to other states to get abortions illegal and then b) allow states to decide whether to make abortions legal, simply because it is a contentious moral issue. But personally I'd be delighted to see it banned everywhere.
                                This kind of thinking pisses me off. So it's not enough for the states to have the right to ban it, you want to prevent a woman from being able to go to a state where she is allowed. Why don't you just ban the poor dears from going out in public without a male escort and wearing a veil.

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