Spanish Youths Take to the Streets

[Zoetstofzoetje]

A large part might also be the idea that work is a necessary evil rather than a goal in itself. I struggle with employees that hit their monthly target during the first week and then slack off until the first day of the following month.

[MRT144]

A large part might also be the idea that work is a necessary evil rather than a goal in itself. I struggle with employees that hit their monthly target during the first week and then slack off until the first day of the following month.

You live in ****ing Spain and Spain by all accounts ****ing rocks. Why would you want to work?

[Zoetstofzoetje]

Because one gets tired of lying on the beach, lounging by the swimming pool, and going out. For some people, work leads to a sense of accomplishment. For a lot of these protesters, work is that thing you're forced to do in between eating, shagging, and sleeping.

[MRT144]

Because one gets tired of lying on the beach, lounging by the swimming pool, and going out. For some people, work leads to a sense of accomplishment. For a lot of these protesters, work is that thing you're forced to do in between eating, shagging, and sleeping.

I get a sense of accomplishment from the food I make, the sex I have and the sleep I get.

[Zoetstofzoetje]

Now I get why Albie doesn't feel a sense of accomplishment. He makes fast food, has no sex, and no sleep.

[C0ckney]

I heard many old spaniards, and immigrants, who say that the problem is that the youth is made of cuddled first worlders, something like, they are unsastisfied with the income they would get for a job, and not because it is impossible to get a job.

while there will always be people with unrealistic expectations the sheer rate if unemployment suggests the real problem is, in fact, a lack of jobs.

[Zoetstofzoetje]

C0ckney, what does that mean, "a lack of jobs"? And why, should there be such a thing, would one protest against the government to turn this situation around?

[C0ckney]

A large part might also be the idea that work is a necessary evil rather than a goal in itself. I struggle with employees that hit their monthly target during the first week and then slack off until the first day of the following month.

there is a problem here. it's not with the employees.

also, yeah, most normal people work to live rather than the reverse. it's the way it should be.

[Kitschum]

Yes, a large part of it is the construction bubble which popped, and all the jobs that depended on it.

[C0ckney]

C0ckney, what does that mean, "a lack of jobs"? And why, should there be such a thing, would one protest against the government to turn this situation around?

errr...at the risk of stating the obvious, it means there aren't enough jobs, especially for young people. the proof of this is in the unemployment figures.

it is one of the roles of government to create the conditions whereby people can have work. clearly the spanish government is failing badly in this regard. the only surprise for me is that it has taken this long for these protests to happen.

[giblets]

A large part might also be the idea that work is a necessary evil rather than a goal in itself. I struggle with employees that hit their monthly target during the first week and then slack off until the first day of the following month.

Great, if they had spent four weeks meeting the monthly target you wouldn't know that you set the target too low.

[giblets]

C0ckney, what does that mean, "a lack of jobs"? And why, should there be such a thing, would one protest against the government to turn this situation around?

Since when did governments not get blamed for a crappy economy?

[MRT144]

Great, if they had spent four weeks meeting the monthly target you wouldn't know that you set the target too low.

I like how this is patently obvious.

[Fake Boris]

So Ztssuygf, you're hiring for crap like data entry or telemarketing, and you complain people won't beg on their knees for the job?

[Barnabas]

Spain is a country that has been "expulsing" people either as jews, moors, conquerors, colonists or poor immigrants since 1492. Spain becoming a country which received millions of immigrants is a novelty in the last half millenium.

That was bad for Spain, Spain's problems would not be as bad with 4 or 5 million people less.

I don't think thess kids demonstrating are construction workers, they are educated middle class people who want middle class jobs.

If I understand correctly, tourism and constructions are the two legs of the Spanish economy and one of them blew up because of a land mine. And Spain isn't the cheap country it used to be so people can go on vacations to other places.

You shouldn't minimize some cases of endemic lazyness in Spain (like the food stamps people in the USA, or some peronists in Argentina) people who are used to only working during the tourism season, and then resting for half of the year getting the unemployment subsidy. Or the PER in Andalucia. If i recall correctly, in the north unemployment is below 10%, only in the southern half it is a disaster.