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  • #46
    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    idiot!
    Do know anything about anything?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Asher View Post
      If I wasn't so lazy I'd start a troll about how desperately the US needs Canada for:

      1) Oil
      2) Natural gas
      3) Electricity
      4) Uranium
      5) Brains



      Cutting off the supply of 3 of those would cripple vast swaths of your country in short order. Feel free to continue bragging about how many bombs you have -- but you don't have what matters most.
      Totally fungible commodities?

      As to the OP yes Europe could ramp up military spending, but they'd have to make actual choices between their welfare state and said military spending. As long as the rest of the world buys the whole "In God we trust" on the USD, we don't have to

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Whoha View Post
        Totally fungible commodities?
        Yeah, I'd like to see you just replace them if cut off cold turkey.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Asher View Post
          Yeah, I'd like to see you just replace them if cut off cold turkey.
          Erm, it would cause severe temporary disruption to both countries followed by a complete return to normalcy.

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          • #50
            I think we'd suddenly find tremendous use for our large military....
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
              Erm, it would cause severe temporary disruption to both countries followed by a complete return to normalcy.
              How exactly are you going to instantly replace the energy deficits?

              You going to snap your fingers and bring dozens more nuclear plants online on the east coast?

              Stumble upon enough natural gas resources to quickly provide for your west coast?

              Build your nukes from the miniscule uranium reserves in the US?
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                I think we'd suddenly find tremendous use for our large military....
                Military whose achilles heel is...oil?

                If you ever get to a point where even Canada won't give you oil, all of those trillion of dollars in high tech weaponry would look really awesome sitting on the ground, stationary.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Military whose achilles heel is...oil?

                  If you ever get to a point where even Canada won't give you oil, all of those trillion of dollars in high tech weaponry would look really awesome sitting on the ground, stationary.
                  I'm guessing the US produces more oil than its military uses.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    How exactly are you going to instantly replace the energy deficits?

                    You going to snap your fingers and bring dozens more nuclear plants online on the east coast?

                    Stumble upon enough natural gas resources to quickly provide for your west coast?

                    Build your nukes from the miniscule uranium reserves in the US?
                    We'd buy the oil from somewhere else, duh.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                      We'd buy the oil from somewhere else, duh.
                      How? With magic spare super-high-speed tanker capacity in reserve? Or perhaps some secret teleportation device to replace the pipelines? And I'm sure you have ample refinery capacity as well built up locally.
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                      • #56
                        Thus the temporary disruption.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Asher View Post
                          How? With magic spare super-high-speed tanker capacity in reserve? Or perhaps some secret teleportation device to replace the pipelines? And I'm sure you have ample refinery capacity as well built up locally.
                          It would be worth it to see Alberta's economy collapse because it doesn't have anyone to sell oil to.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            How? With magic spare super-high-speed tanker capacity in reserve? Or perhaps some secret teleportation device to replace the pipelines? And I'm sure you have ample refinery capacity as well built up locally.
                            With higher prices and corresponding less usage of oil in the immediate short term.
                            Last edited by Whoha; May 17, 2011, 03:41.

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                            • #59
                              WTF are you rambling about. France is one of your most useful ally. If anything you've ****ed them over countless times more than they have.
                              Um, really?

                              Let's look at history.

                              1)France surrenders to Germany in 1940.
                              2)US/Britain to invade North Africa, request cooperation w/ the French. Cooperation given reluctantly. Girard, De Gaulle, Darlan, etc., squabble over role of the French in an Anglo/US operation. French battleship Jean Bart fires on USS Massachusetts.
                              3)De Gaulle eventually gains control over Free French, and continues to dick around Allied command structure, eventually co-option French formations under Eisenhower's command to act in a manner contrary to orders, in order to pursue French objectives to the detriment of the Allies.
                              4)The French demand recognition as a major power, despite the fact that they were the ONLY major power to surrender to Hitler.
                              5)The French enter NATO, then decide to kick NATO out of France, but still expect NATO protection.
                              6)The French refuse American aircraft the right to overfly French territory en route to bombing Libya. The US gets in done anyway.
                              7)The French pursue a Franco-German-Russian bloc to counter US power, never minding the fact that it was US power that saved France from German/Soviet domination in the first place.
                              8)France continually opposes US foreign policy at every turn.
                              9)France needs US help to, ironically, bomb Libya.

                              **** France. Simple as that. They pretend to have international relevance when in fact they are so irrelevant that the only news they make is when their Presidential candidates try to rape American maids.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                                I'm guessing the US produces more oil than its military uses.
                                Does it produce more oil than it's military, agriculture and food distribution channels use though?
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