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  • Puzzled - Patraeus to Head CIA, Panetta to Head Defense

    AP sources: Panetta to Pentagon, Petraeus to CIA
    Wednesday - 4/27/2011, 8:35am ET

    By ANNE GEARAN and KIMBERLY DOZIER
    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama plans to name CIA Director Leon Panetta as the next secretary of defense and move Gen. David Petraeus, now running the war in Afghanistan, into the CIA chief's job in a major shuffle of the nation's national security leadership, administration and other sources said Wednesday.

    All sources spoke on condition of anonymity because the changes haven't been announced by the president.

    The changes would probably take effect this summer. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has already said he will leave this year, and the White House wants to schedule Senate confirmation hearings in the coming months.

    The officials say Obama is expected to also announce that Lt. Gen. John Allen would replace Petraeus as Afghanistan commander, and that diplomat Ryan Crocker will be the next U.S. ambassador in Afghanistan.

    The changes are expected to be announced Thursday at the White House. A former U.S. official said all four candidates would stand together with Obama for the announcement.

    Allen, now the deputy commander of U.S. Central Command in Florida, is due in Washington on Wednesday, and sources in Afghanistan said Petraeus was also headed to Washington.

    The Associated Press first reported Tuesday that seasoned diplomat Crocker was the top candidate for the Afghanistan ambassadorial post as part of a far-reaching revamping of the nation's top leadership in the conflict there, now in its 10th year. The Washington Post reported Tuesday night that a larger package of changes was likely to be announced this week.

    Officials said Tuesday the White House was weighing several factors, including Crocker's role in the larger cast change in Afghanistan policy this summer and fall. Those personnel changes are unrelated to the progress of the prolonged war but come just as Obama needs to demonstrate enough success to follow through with his pledge to begin withdrawing U.S. forces in July.

    U.S. military and civilian defense leaders call 2011 the make-or-break year for turning around the war and laying the path for a gradual U.S. exit by 2015. The main obstacles are the uncertain leadership and weak government of Karzai, the open question of whether the Taliban can be integrated into Afghan political life and the continued safe harbor Pakistan provides for militants attacking U.S. and NATO forces over the border in Afghanistan.

    A U.S. official who confirmed Panetta's move to the Pentagon said the White House chose him because of his long experience in Washington, including working with budgets at the intelligence agency, as well as his extensive experience in the field during his time as CIA director. The official said Panetta had traveled more than 200,000 miles, to more than 40 CIA stations and bases and more than 30 countries, including Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Petraeus, who took over as Afghanistan war commander in June, has been expected to leave that post before the end of this year. His name had been floated for weeks as a possible replacement for Panetta if Obama tapped Panetta to replace Gates as Pentagon chief. Current and former administration officials noted that Petraeus would bring a customer's eye to the job as one of the key people to use and understand CIA and military intelligence during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Petraeus claims that military advances, especially in the traditional Taliban stronghold areas of southern Afghanistan, have blunted the Taliban-led insurgency and given the edge to the U.S. and its NATO partners. A planned transition to Afghan security control begins this year, and the U.S. wants to start withdrawing some of its approximately 100,000 forces in July.

    Sending Crocker to Afghanistan would briefly reunite him with Petraeus, re-creating the diplomatic and military "dream team" credited with rescuing the flagging American mission in Iraq. Crocker would replace Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, a former Army general whose two-year tenure has been marred by cool relationships with major players in the Afghanistan war, including the White House, U.S. military leaders and Afghan President Hamid Karzai, administration and other sources said.

    The nearly wholesale changes at the top of Obama's Afghanistan military and diplomatic lineup will leave fewer military and civilian leaders who have Obama's ear and who also have Afghanistan experience. Allen, the choice to become Afghanistan war commander, has never served there.

    Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, will leave his post in September after four years dominated by the ebb of the war in Iraq and the escalation of the one in Afghanistan. The top candidate to replace Mullen is Marine Gen. James Cartwright, who also has never served in Afghanistan.

    Crocker, now at Texas A&M University, didn't respond to emails from the AP seeking comment. His assistant, Mary Hein, said he has been traveling for the school over the past week and was not available for interviews.

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    Associated Press writers Bradley Klapper, Ben Feller, Matthew Lee and Robert Burns in Washington and Deb Riechmann in Kabul contributed to this report.


    (Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)
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    Agreed. That makes no sense to me. Not that it will make much difference in the cluster**** of a "war on terror" our country (and several others, yes, I know) is fighting.

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    • #3
      The main obstacles are the uncertain leadership and weak government of Karzai,
      This guy is still around after nearly ten years? I thought Afghanistan was supposed to be a democracy now?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
        Strange choices.
        I love this

        A U.S. official who confirmed Panetta's move to the Pentagon said the White House chose him because of his long experience in Washington, including working with budgets at the intelligence agency, as well as his extensive experience in the field during his time as CIA director. The official said Panetta had traveled more than 200,000 miles, to more than 40 CIA stations and bases and more than 30 countries, including Afghanistan and Pakistan.
        Yes he's worked with budgets and flown on planes. Very experienced.

        It was a joke to make him CIA director in the first place. This is just ludicrous.
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        • #5
          They're just shuffling the same **** around. Government we deserve.
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          • #6
            Petraeus is a smart guy, and he definitely did a good job in Iraq, especially given the circumstances and the mess it was in when he took over. I suspect he'd make a perfectly good CIA director, but it honestly would make more sense to appoint him to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
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            • #7
              If they had any sense at all they'd bring back Gen Michael Hayden to CIA.
              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SpencerH View Post
                I love this



                Yes he's worked with budgets and flown on planes. Very experienced.

                It was a joke to make him CIA director in the first place. This is just ludicrous.
                He probably is getting sent to Defense specifically because he's a "budget guy".

                I think Starvadis is going to get the Chairman of the JCS job, which is a better choice than Patraeus. Patraeus is not very good on "grand strategy", although people think he is because he happens to have taken COIN to a high art.
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                • #9
                  Panetta is basically a poor man's Rumsfeld -- an old Washington hand without the defense background. I have nothing against him, but think that he's a bad substitute for Gates, who was a good and hefty Secretary of Defense. To win the budget battles, you have to have some credibility in defense issues.

                  I'm mystified as to why Petraeus would take a demotion to CIA. Right now, he's untouchable.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DanS View Post
                    Panetta is basically a poor man's Rumsfeld -- an old Washington hand without the defense background. I have nothing against him, but think that he's a bad substitute for Gates, who was a good and hefty Secretary of Defense. To win the budget battles, you have to have some credibility in defense issues.

                    I'm mystified as to why Petraeus would take a demotion to CIA. Right now, he's untouchable.
                    Rummie had a stronger defense background than Panetta, and he was a disaster. I'm sure though biggest reason he's going to Defennse is because he's a "Budget guy".


                    I suspect Petraeus is going to CIA so someone intimately familiar with two of our major wars is running the main Intel Agency.
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                    • #11
                      I'm just wondering if Obama intended to bump this off the headlines with his Birther announcement.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #12
                        Yes, because this is such world shattering news that CHANGES EVERYTHING
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS View Post
                          I'm mystified as to why Petraeus would take a demotion to CIA. Right now, he's untouchable.
                          Running the CIA is a promotion.
                          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                          • #14
                            I think Patraeus didn't get the defense dept job was twofold: he could do a good job at the CIA (which is sorely needed) and because Obama doesn't need a popular figure possibly disagreeing with him on military policy issues.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SpencerH View Post
                              Running the CIA is a promotion.
                              You must have that position confused with the Director of National Intelligence.
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