A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Guynemer]

Not a whole lot to say about the finale, glad they got Jon and Dany back on track, spoilers follow

Spoiler:

The problem is that, while that closing sequence with the Others was quite good, they are completely irrelevant to the plot for the foreseeable future, with the exception of Sam's immediate storyline, and Jon's storyline another couple years from now, when they just force the Wildlings south. I'm afraid the TV newbies are going to get White Walker blueballs.

[Krill]

Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread, but what don't you like about how Davos is portrayed?

Got to compare stuff to the books, so I'll spoiler it:

Spoiler:

In the books Davos is trusted by Stannis, but he is not given command of the fleet going up the Blackwater, and it explicitly states that Davos thinks the navy is using a bad plan that leaves them exposed. Davos basically takes no blame for what happens, but in the show, he is the character at fault for the destruction of the fleet, which makes him look a bit thick. Also, Davos is not made Kings Hand until the middle of book 3 after he does a few other things. Basically, the character in the TV shows is portrayed in a completely different way.

[Dinner]

I just noticed last week's episode of South Park had some Game of Thrones stuff in it.

[joncha]

Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread, but what don't you like about how Davos is portrayed?

[Krill]

Just watched the episode again...I'm being grumpy, it's a pretty good episode if you accept the "Book is the book, the show is the show" argument. I just feel a bit sad that Davos is portrayed how he is.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Dragons came from Essos, but now they are from Westeros, except do you count these as coming fro Westeros (although Dany is from Westeros).

JM

These dragons don't come from Westeros. They were a gift from Ilyrio Mopatis, who is from Pentos (IIRC) to Dany.

[Guynemer]

As long as we are correcting each other's spelling of names... isn't it Tywin?

Yup. Hate this damned laptop, especially when there is a cat laying across my wrists.

[rah]

Yes, just enough action to frame the other scenes.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I agree, though I have to say that the original plan for the episode (where all we see of the battle are reports back to Cersei in the keep) would have been incredibly disappointing. I'm glad they were given the extra cash to make the episode they did.

[rah]

I think that is actually the worst episode this season. And it's not really that bad, I just don't think it's that great, but it's budget constrained. This deserves a battle on the proportions of the Gladiator opening scene. Just a bit hard to do that anywhere except Mogadishu, and I think the insurance would have been a tad expensive.

For me (with the exception of the green explosion) the scenes that made it the best were not battle scenes. The bar scene, the rally scene, the scenes in the women's sanctuary.

[OzzyKP]

Mein Gott, there are so many errors in that post one wonders where to begin.

Three (four if one wants to be very pedantic) actually: yes, that ****ing was Loras Tyrell with Twyin at the end; it is Cersei and Tyrion; and Knight of Flowers should be capitalized.

As long as we are correcting each other's spelling of names... isn't it Tywin?

But yea, I noticed it was the Loras when I watched the episode, I may have a better idea what is going on in the show then Oerdin who read the books.

[Guynemer]

There were no Tyrells in the last episode. The person one or two people in this thread called the knight of flowers is actually the Lannister cousin which Cersey was ****ing and who Tyrian blackmailed into spying for him.

Mein Gott, there are so many errors in that post one wonders where to begin.

Three (four if one wants to be very pedantic) actually: yes, that ****ing was Loras Tyrell with Twyin at the end; it is Cersei and Tyrion; and Knight of Flowers should be capitalized.

[Jon Miller]

Dragons came from Essos, but now they are from Westeros, except do you count these as coming fro Westeros (although Dany is from Westeros).

JM

[Imran Siddiqui]

Historically, both. Though right now there are only three and they're in Essos.

IIRC, Dragons came from Valyria, which is in Essos. The Targaryens, descended from Old Valyria brought them to Westeros - that's how they conquered the Seven Kingdoms (Field of Fire and all that).

In addition to that Essos advantage:

Spoiler:

In addition also to Dothraki, the Golden Company and other mercenary companies come from Essos. Also, the big banks, such as the Bank of Braavos that is financing much of Westeros's wars. The free cities are the ones with all the cash. So Essos has all the money, all the big mercenary hordes, and the dragons. Westeros would be flattened - unless the Others came to fight on their side

[Ecthy]

There were no Tyrells in the last episode. The person one or two people in this thread called the knight of flowers is actually the Lannister cousin which Cersey was ****ing and who Tyrian blackmailed into spying for him.

Bull****, Loras Tyrell makes his appearance alongside with Tywin's crowd in the throne room at the end, and is easily distinguishable from Lancel Lannister.